[r-t] St Remigius Bob

Philip Earis Earisp at rsc.org
Mon Apr 10 13:34:07 UTC 2006


"Perhaps Phil wouldn't mind forwarding on to the list the parts of the
email I sent him which pointed out why it wasn't allowed"

No problem!  First, the background information:

The notation for St Remigius Bob Doubles is &345.1.125.3.5, 125

Sam rang a quarter-peal of a new triples method which he called "St
Remigius Bob Triples". The notation to this was &347.1.127.3.7.3.7, 127

The 'email of doom' he subsequently received is copied below:


-----Original Message-----
From: Samuel M. Austin [mailto:combineharvestersam at hotmail.com] 
Sent: 10 April 2006 13:14
To: Philip Earis
Subject: FW: St Remigius Bob


-----Original Message-----
From:	"Tony Smith" <smith_a_p at btinternet.com>
Sent:	Sunday, April 09, 2006 5:20 PM
To:	"Sam Austin" <combineharvestersam at hotmail.com>
Subject:	St Remigius Bob

Hi Sam,

I noticed on Campanophile the quarter peal of Triples that you called at
Feckenham last Thursday. It is, of course, only academic at present but,
if
the method were rung in a peal, it could not be called St Remigius Bob,
since it is not related as in the Decision on Method Extension to the
Doubles method of that name. The principle reasons are Decisions (G)
B.5,
which says that the extension of a method with Plain Bob-type lead-heads
must also have Plain Bob-type lead-heads, and (G) B.8, which says that
wherever the parent has working bells making adjacent places, this
characteristic must be retained in all extensions.

St Remigius Bob Doubles has Plain Bob-type lead-heads but your Triples
method does not; St Remigius Bob Doubles has adjacent places made in the
penultimate and ultimate positions but your Triples method does not.
There
are six possible extensions of St Remigius Bob Doubles, of which number
iii.
is possibly the most attractive. 

i. construction BC mode-1 above the treble/ DE mode-1 below the treble
Triples 347.1.12567.3.147.5.7 l.e. 127 q
Caters 349.1.12569.3.14789.5.169.7.9 l.e. 129 q1
Thirteen 34A.1.1256A.3.1478A.5.1690A.7.18ETA.9.10A.E.A l.e. 12A p2
et seq.

ii. construction BC mode-1 above the treble/ DE mode-3 below the treble
Triples 347.1.12567.3.127.3.7 l.e. 127 p
Caters 349.1.12569.3.12789.3.129.3.9 l.e. 129 p
Cinques 34E.1.1256E.3.1278E.3.1290E.3.12E.3.E l.e. 12E p
et seq.

iii. construction BC mode-1 above the treble/ EF mode-3 below the treble
Triples 347.1.12567.3.7.3.7 l.e. 127 p
Caters 349.1.12569.3.789.3.9.3.9 l.e. 129 p
Cinques 34E.1.1256E.3.78E.3.90E.3.E.3.E l.e. 12E p
et seq.

iv. construction BC mode-2 above the treble/ DE mode-2 below the treble
Triples 367.1.12567.3.127.5.7 l.e. 127 p
Caters 389.1.12589.3.12789.5.129.7.9 l.e. 129 p
Cinques 30E.1.1250E.3.1270E.5.1290E.7.12E.9.E l.e. 12E p
et seq.

v. construction BC mode-2 above the treble/ EF mode-1 below the treble
Triples 367.1.12567.3.7.5.7 l.e. 127 p
Caters 389.1.12589.3.789.5.9.7.9 l.e. 129 p
Cinques 30E.1.1250E.3.70E.5.90E.7.E.9.E l.e. 12E p
et seq.

vi. construction BC mode-3 above the treble/ DE mode-1 below the treble
Triples 567.1.12567.3.147.5.7 l.e. 127 p
Caters 789.1.12789.3.14789.5.169.7.9 l.e. 129 p
Cinques 90E.1.1290E.3.1490E.5.1690E.7.18E.9.E l.e. 12E p
et seq.

BTW I also noticed Upton by Birkenhead Differential Treble Place Doubles
that you called at Great Carlton on 3 August 2005 (RW 06/314). I gave
you
the benefit of the doubt and included it in the method collections
proper,
on the assumption that you rang extents. However it was not obvious what
compositions you used and I would be grateful if you could let me know.


Many thanks and best wishes, Tony
email mailto:smithap at acm.org 


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