[r-t] Bastow / Cloister
Mr Philip Saddleton
freepabs at freeuk.com
Fri Feb 3 15:25:02 UTC 2006
Ben Willetts writes:
>> I believe [Cloister] is a logical extention of Bastow little bob
> Depends what you call 'logical'! :-) Bastow is an even-bell method where
> there is one hunt bell, hunting to 2nds and back. Cloister is an odd-bell
> method where there are two hunt bells, hunting to 3rds and back. So yes, it
> does seem logical, although it doesn't fit the CC definition of an
Yes it does - that is why it has the same name.
>> I can't think of any other methods where dodges turn
>> to double dodges on higher stages.
> The double dodge is caused by two hunt bells turning round in the middle of
> the change, instead of just one. You probably can't think of any other
> methods like this because there are very few Little methods rung, and even
> fewer where the twin-hunt 'extension' has been rung too. Consider the
> 'extension' of Little Bob Minor to Triples -- 22.214.171.124.126.96.36.199.7.1 -- there
> is a double-dodge in 6-7 as the two hunt bells turn round in 5ths.
Grandsire, Double Grandsire, Reverse Grandsire and Little Grandsire are the
twin-hunt extensions of Plain Bob, Double Bob, Reverse Bob and Little Bob
respectively to the next higher stage, although strictly Plain Bob at odd
stages (Grandsire at even stages) is a different method from Plain Bob at
even stages (Grandsire at odd stages).
Though Little Grandsire Triples has never been rung in a peal, and so
doesn't appear in the CC collection. Little Grandsire Caters goes back a
long way, but unfortunately the first peal in the method was recently found
to be false.
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