[r-t] minor with no adjacent places

Sun Dec 19 11:13:50 UTC 2010

```Treble place methods would seem to be ruled out as well - the two rows
with the treble in the same place need tobe of opposite parity, so where
a place is made within the half-lead this must be a single change.

The reason that extents of original can be achieved with bobs only is
that causing the treble to dodge changes the parity of rows with it in a
given position. We can use the same trick to get an extent of a Plain
method with no single changes, as John Holt did for Plain Bob. Single
Court is the obvious choice for a method with no adjacent places, but
such an extent could be construed as Original. For something that cannot:

720 Stedman Bob Minor
123456
x615342
136254
-154236
136425
125643
143562
162354
-154362
162435
135246
x261435
-154623
x156342
-142356
156234
134625
125463
163542
-142563
163254
-154263
163425
3-part
Calls marked x are made in 36 and affect the treble, jumping to a

To answer the original question, I doubt that anything other than
Original has been rung.

PABS

edward martin said  on 18/12/2010 08:19:
> On 17 December 2010 21:30, Alexander Holroyd<holroyd at math.ubc.ca>  wrote:
>> What extents of minor with no adjacent places have been rung?
>>
>> By adjacent places, I mean place notations 12,34,56,1236, etc.
>>
>> It is easily possible to construct such an extent.  E.g. there are bobs-only
>> extents of original.  But I can't think of anything commonly rung that is
>> like this.
>>
>
> I.m only halfway through the first cup of coffee and am not really
> awake, but at first thought I'd say that you can't get an extent of
> plain minor because it would need two singles, and you can't get an
> extent of T.B. mnor because it needs places when treble is in 3-4
> therefore only Minor principals offer the possibility...but looking at