[r-t] FW: Alliance Caters

[Philip Earis]

Further to Tony Cox's recent email, David Hull has been following a similar path and developing new Caters methods.

He's given me permission to forward this email containing some new compositional and method ideas...


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Hull <davidghull at googlemail.com>
Date: Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: Alliance Caters
To: mark at bronze-age.com


Hello Mark.

I think I only ever bothered to come up with a composition for one of them.
They are quite false, but it didn't seem insoluble.
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 5112 Unrung Alliance Caters
 D G Hull

 23456789    1       7   8
 23456897        4
 64523           X
 35426978        4   -   -
 64523               -   -
 35426789        4   -   -
 64523               -   -
 42563           X   -   -
 35264               -   -
 35264897        4
 35264978        4
 42635           X
 42635789        4
 35642           X       -
 64352       -           -
 56342897    -   4
 35642978        4       -
 64352       -           -
 23456       -   X
 23456789        4

 X = 2.3.4 (6 leads)

 In courses called X, calls at 7 and 8 are really at 5 and 6.

 Method:
 3.9.3.1.9.25.7.1.5.9.3.58.1.9.7.1.7.9 lh129

This seemed pretty acceptable, working around little bell courses in the
main.

Others which I came up with more recently, but which I haven't yet looked at
composing peal lengths for are:

3.9.3.1.9.5.9.67.34.1.5.1.9.7.1.7.9 lh129 (nice Bristol-type features)
3.9.3.1.5.9.7.36.47.3.1.5.9.7.1.7.9 lh129 (some nice features in the blue
line)
3.9.7.6.7.2.5.3.7.5.8.3.4.3.1.7.9 lh129 (has a vague feel of Orion about
it!)
5.9.3.1.9.5.9.3.456.7.1.5.1.9.7.1.5.9 lh129
5.9.3.1.9.25.9.1.9.1.58.1.9.7.1.5.9 lh129
9.3.9.45.9.27.5.1.9.5.38.1.56.1.7.1.9 lh129 (quite dynamic blue line)
9.3.9.47.9.27.56.1.9.45.38.1.36.1.7.1.9 lh129
9.5.3.6.7.5.9.1.5.9.1.5.3.4.7.5.1.9 lh129

Obviously you can switch the half-leads (189/9) and the lead-ends (129/1) as
you choose.

Undoubtedly you'll have spotted that they're all double with the exception
of the need to have a different style half-lead and lead-head (I might be
being dim here, but I think my logic is right that a truly double Alliance
Caters method with plain-bob lead heads is impossible, because you always
end up at an "even" lead head and therefore get short courses).

Anyway, I found it quite therapeutic coming up with these and arguably they
ought to be of more than academic interest. Feel free to forward to Ringing
Theory (seeing as I can't seem to post there) if you want.

Cheers,
David

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Mark Davies <mark at snowtiger.net> wrote:

> Hi there David
>
> I've come up with just this one so far:
>
>  Alliance No.1 Caters
>  3.7.9.1.5.9.7.3.7.3.1.5.9.1.3.7.9 lh 129
>
> I've just realised something which should have been obvious - due to the
> negative nature of the leadend, most of these are rather false. Not enough
> to stop you ringing them, but enough to make them less than ideal. What are
> yours like - any less false?
>
> Currently thinking about ways to minimize the falseness, possibly by using
> a LH group that would give an odd number of leads to the course. This isn't
> quite as straightforward as I expected - perhaps why nothing like this has
> been rung.
>
> Cheers
> M


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