[r-t] Composing challenge - 1788 Plain Bob Maximus

Alan Reading alan.reading at googlemail.com
Mon Nov 15 20:37:00 UTC 2010


Here's another effort.

Has quite a few runs and cyclic type music but does deploy a sledgehammer
call to get the treble into the hunt, and simultaneously put the other bells
into a backstroke cyclic course. Only 2 types of call though.


1788 Plain Bob Maximus

(TE0987654321)

 T08E69472513

 T8604E291735

 T648201E3957

 T42618305E79

 T2143658709E

 1T234567890E x

 1T24638507E9 -

 1T268403E597 -

 1T2806E49375 -

 1T20E8967453 -

 12ET90785634

 1E927T503846

 197E523T4068

 17593E426T80

 1537496E820T

 134567890ET2

 13468507T92E -

 134806T527E9 -

 1340T826E597 -

 134T20E89675 -

 1423ET907856

 12E4937T5068

 1E9274536T80

 197E5264830T

 17596E8204T3

 1567890ET234

 156807T93E42 -

 1560T837492E -

 156T304827E9 -

 15634T20E897 -

 164523ET9078

 1426E5937T80

 12E49675830T

 1E92748605T3

 197E8204T635

 17890ET23456

 1780T93E5264 -

 178T30596E42 -

 18375T60492E

 1358674T20E9

 15634827ET90

 164523E8970T

 1426E59308T7

 12E49605T378

 1E9204T67583

 190ET2748635

 190T7E823456 -

 19078T3E5264 -

 1089375T6E42

 183059674T2E

 1358604927ET

 15634820E9T7

 164523E8T079

 1426E5T37890

 12E4T6759308

 1ET274960583

 1ET792048635 -

 1ET907823456 -

 1T0E89375264

 108T3E596742

 18305T6E4927

 1358604T2E79

 135648207T9E -

 1354267890ET -

 13527496E8T0 -

 157392E4T608

 1795E3T20486

 19E7T5038264

 1ET907856342

 1T0E89674523

 108T6E492735

 18604T2E3957

 1648203T5E79

 142638507T9E

 1234567890ET



 x = 34567890ET

 - = 14


Cheers,

Alan




On 15 November 2010 19:44, Philip Saddleton <pabs at cantab.net> wrote:

>
> Clearly the treble needs to be affected to get the length. I see three
> possibilities:
>
> - variable hunt, with fixed length leads (as you have)
> - treble remains in the hunt, but is affected by calls, thus altering the
> length of the lead (I assume this is ruled out, as a lead of little bob
> could be thought of as the treble making the bob)
> - variable hunt, changing the hunt bell within a lead, without a call
> otherwise, along the lines of Alan Burbidge's Grandsire Triples.
>
> I have gone for the third of these, but restricted myself to whole
> half-leads, i.e. 12 made at the half-lead, after which a new lead starts. It
> is a bit awkward keeping the back bells together, as there is only one place
> in the course for such a call that keeps 890ET fixed, and this repeats the
> middle of the course. Here's an attempt that aims to keep calls to a
> minimum:
>
> -12357496E8T0
>  137295E4T608
>  1793E2T50486
>  19E7T3028564
>  1ET907836245
>  1T0E89674352
>  108T6E495723
>  18604T5E2937
> -1864502T3E79
>  165824307T9E
>  1526387490ET
>  ------------
> -15237698E4T0
>  127593E6T804
> x48603T5E2917
> x79E1T2058346
>  7ET901824563
>  7T0E89416235
>  708T4E693152
>  78406T3E5921
> x19E2T5038674
>  1ET902857346
>  1T0E89724563
>  108T7E496235
>  18704T6E3952
>  1748603T5E29
> -174638502T9E
>  1437562890ET
>  ------------
>  13542796E8T0
> -135294E7T608
>  1593E2T40786
>  19E5T3028467
>  1ET905836274
>  1T0E89657342
>  108T6E794523
>  18607T4E2935
> x59E3T2048716
>  5ET903821467
>  5T0E89136274
>  508T1E697342
>  58106T7E4923
> x39E2T4078651
>  3ET902845716
>  3T0E89521467
>  308T5E196274
>  38501T6E7942
> x29E4T7068135
>  2ET904873651
>  2T0E89345716
>  208T3E591467
>  28305T1E6974
>  2358106T7E49
>  251368704T9E
>  2165734890ET
>  ------------
> -21674593E8T0
>  264197E5T308
>  2496E1T70583
>  29E4T6018735
>  2ET904863157
>  2T0E89345671
>  208T3E597416
>  28305T7E1964
> x49E6T1078523
>  4ET906812735
>  4T0E89263157
>  408T2E395671
>  48203T5E7916
> x69E1T7058342
>  6ET901874523
>  6T0E89412735
>  608T4E293157
>  68402T3E5971
> x19E7T5038264
>  1ET907856342
>  1T0E89674523
>  108T6E492735
>  18604T2E3957
>  1648203T5E79
>  142638507T9E
>  1234567890ET
>  ------------
> 1788 rows ending in 1234567890ET
> Touch is true
>
> Philip
>
> Philip Earis said  on 14/11/2010 17:04:
>
>  Here's a composing challenge that I've been playing around with a bit this
>> afternoon. A prize is on offer for the best solution...
>>
>> For a historic commemorative reason, I need a touch of 1788 plain bob
>> maximus. I would like this to be 'pure' (ie no splicing with little bob!)
>> and relatively simple, with a maximum of two types of call if possible.
>>
>> Now 1788 changes equates to 74.5 leads. A logical way to start would be
>> with the tenor in the hunt, with a call to swap it with the treble after 5.5
>> leads.
>>
>> I did this with a 3T call, bringing up:
>> 1T243658709E
>>
>> then I used just 4ths place bobs:
>>
>> 1T2E09876543 (5b)
>> 1ET209876543 (10p b)
>> 1354267890ET (8p b 8p)
>> 1524367890ET (p 8b)
>> 1342567890ET (p 7b p)
>> 1423567890ET (8b p)
>> 1234567890ET (8b p)
>>
>> Whilst this works, plain bob's a-group nature causes some serious
>> constraints.
>> I wonder if there's a better, innovative approach. Ideas very welcome.
>>
>>
>>
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