[r-t] "New Grandsire"
edward.w.martin at gmail.com
Mon Jul 18 06:53:53 UTC 2011
On 13 July 2011 11:35, Tony Smith <smith_a_p at btinternet.com> wrote:
> Decision (E) A.1 (b) says "Starting the plain course from a different change
> does not give a different method". Council established this principle at
> Eastbourne in 1950 (www.methods.org.uk/archive/ccm1950.htm)
> On Tue Jul 5 23:36:08 BST 2011, edward martin <edward.w.martin at gmail.com>
>> you mean as in:
>> 2345 Grandsire bobbed gives
>> 4523 then New Grandsire plain gives
>> 3542 and Grandsire plain gives
> Eddie's touch could be simply described as Original with 3rds place bobs at
> handstroke but since the amendment to Decision (E) A.2 at the recent CC
> meeting ...
> "A call is a means of passing from one course of a method to another. It is
> not part of the definition of the method. A call may be effected in one of
> the following ways:
> (a) by altering the places made between two or more consecutive rows without
> altering the length of a lead;
> (b) by omitting consecutive changes, altering the length of a lead."
> ... it could now be alternative described as Grandsire with "New Start"
As Graham John recently put it (in another thread):
"You can define a five part extent of Plain Bob Minor as a method or
as a composition of Original, but there isn't much value in doing
either. " and I would say that this applies to the above touch.
Under Classification of methods with two or more hunt bells, the
Council's Decisions state:
"Each hunt bell is either a principal hunt or a secondary hunt."
As with all comps of New Grandsire of which I am aware, This touch
retains the Treble (No. 1) as the primary hunt in both Grandsire & New
Grandsire (ignoring that it brings rounds at handstroke,) the above
touch has treble as Primary Hunt with no changes lost or gained in any
lead block of either method.
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