[r-t] Definition of a call

[Leigh Simpson]

“Spliced Plain Bob, Gainsborough LB and Little Bob Major could be rung as Plain Bob with Method (b) calls. I suppose that it comes down to how you call it and how you learn it.”



For me, that’s the crux of the matter. You could similarly ring it as Original with a variety of calls. I think it’s important that the composition is described as it is rung – if the band set out to ring Plain Bob and the conductor calls type (b) calls then that’s how it should be set up. If the conductor calls it as spliced, then that’s how it should be sent up.

I agree that it’s a shame that calls still have to take you into a different course. Maybe next year...

Leigh

From: ringing-theory-bounces at bellringers.net [mailto:ringing-theory-bounces at bellringers.net] On Behalf Of Robert Bennett
Sent: 08 June 2011 10:06
To: ringing-theory at bellringers.net
Subject: Re: [r-t] Definition of a call

 

Method (b) is an unusual way of making a call, but could be quite handy. Has this type of call be used much? 

There is a 720 of Bob Minor (I think in the Clavis and composed by John Holt) which has no singles, the treble dodging once 56 up once in 56 down and making 4ths once. Could this be fitted in as a method (b) scheme?

Spliced Plain Bob, Gainsborough LB and Little Bob Major could be rung as Plain Bob with Method (b) calls.

I suppose that it comes down to how you call it and how you learn it.



On Wed 08/06/11 10:17 AM , "Graham John" graham at changeringing.co.uk sent:

The definition of a call was changed at the CC meeting on 30 May 2011, following a request at the previous year's meeting to accommodate the variable treble Grandsire Triples rung at St Chad's, Birmingham on 24 Nov, 2009 (RW 2010, p217).

 

The decision has been changed as follows:-

 

(E)A.2

A call  is a means of passing from one course of a method to another. It is not part of the definition of the method. A call may be effected in one of the following ways:

(a) by altering the places made between two or more consecutive rows without altering the length of a lead;

(b) by omitting consecutive changes, altering the length of a lead.

I read this as saying that a call is either (a) OR (b). However the peal in question had a 34567 single at the same time as changing the hunt bell, which it does not seem to cover properly as it is (a) AND (b). Perhaps it would have been better phrased if the words "one of" had been left out.

 

I also feel it was an opportunity missed not to change "course" in the first sentence to "lead" or "row" to solve the problem described at the link below. 

 

http://changeringing.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Calls_that_pass_to_another_part_of_the_same_course

 

Graham  

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