[r-t] ringing the Mathieu group

Philip Saddleton pabs at cantab.net
Tue May 24 21:35:26 UTC 2011


Here's my approach:

We'll try to join together half leads of a plain method using a system 
of hunts. For a right place method, there is onl one place within the 
half lead where there is a choice of PNs, i.e. when the treble is in 
6-7, the two methods being the reverse of each other. Arbitrarily fix 
one, and we have PN -8E-8E-25-8E-8E-. For the half-lead and lead-head we 
can choose either PN without upsetting the treble. For now, we'll use 1T 
for each, and say that we are going to have a call every hl and lh. The 
method we finish up with has 0 and E as secondary hunts and a 9 lead 
plain course. We can get an 11 lead course by using e.g. PN 25 when the 
treble is in 3-4, but that gives four consecutive blows.

Now all we need is to find the Q-sets that will let us join the 440 
courses together.

First I try to keep the tenor unaffected as much as possible. We can 
then fix most of the Q-sets with a skeleton course

    1234567890ET
bb 13T54986E702
ax 186E5T943702
ba 12E65349T708
ab 149T6E320578
xb 1380T92E7654
aa 1E02789T3654
bx 104723T9865E
ab 1T987430526E
bx 19E78503426T

where a=25, b=8E and x=1T

We now try to extend this to a block where 1,E and T occupy each 
combination of positions. We must have b at the lh where they are in 0E, 
or we will repeat (and they cross in 67 at the hl, so are unaffected). 
Using this Q-set and allowing E to be unaffected wherever possible we 
join all but two of the leads (underlines denote the course heads or the 
extra Q-set)

    1234567890ET
    ------------
bb 13T54986E702
ax 186E5T943702
ba 12E65349T708
ab 149T6E320578
xb 1380T92E7654
aa 1E02789T3654
bx 104723T9865E
ab 1T987430526E
bx 19E78503426T
    ------------
bb 1ET874356029
ax 13568T47E029
ba 19658E74T023
ab 174T56E92803
xb 1E32T4960587
ab 1960234E8T57
    ------------
ba 170628E43T59
aa 146E30827T59
xa 19E876230T54
aa 13820E679T54
ba 14280976ET53
aa 1687E2904T53
ab 190478265ET3
    ------------
ab 12654089T7E3
    ------------
ab 189T5602E473
xb 103ET9267548
aa 16E2739T0548
bx 1E8720T93546
ab 1T93780E4256
bx 196734E0825T
    ------------
bb 16T378045E29
ax 10453T876E29
ba 19543678TE20
ab 178T456923E0
xb 1602T895E437
aa 1529E08T6437
bx 127E96T80435
ab 1T80E7623945
bx 185E0326794T
    ------------
bb 15T0E7634298
ax 16340T7E5298
ba 184305E7T296
ab 1E7T34589026
xb 1569T784230E
aa 1498267T530E
bx 19E285T76304
ab 1T762E590834
bx 17426095E83T
    ------------
bb 14T62E503987
ax 15036TE24987
bb 1076342T8E95
    ------------
bx 175368T24E90
ab 1T24358796E0
bx 1203497856ET
    ------------

The missing two leads can be joined by using the Q-set where E is behind 
and T is in 890E, to give a block of 2640 rows wher 1ET occupy all 
possible positions once each at hand and back. Using x wherever the hl 
or lh is not restricted by the position of E or T gives a nine-part 
palindromic block, where we now have 10ET in each position twice in a 
23760 (a quarter peal). There are ten places in each part where we now 
have an x; for each of these, the PN to use is determined by the 
position of 0 in all but one part. If we choose a or b consistently for 
each of the remaining ones, or for each symmetrically disposed pair, we 
finish up with a round block.

I am sure there must be Q-sets with one element in each quarter (but not 
the x's) - I leave this for someone else to find.

regards
Philip

Here is the gsiril code where each x is replaced by a:

12 bells
h=+-8E-8E-25-25-25-
l=+-25-25-25-8E-8E-
ha=h,+25
hb=h,+8E
la=l,+25
lb=l,+8E
aa=ha,la,"aa @"
ab=ha,lb,"ab @"
ax=ha,la,"ax @"
ba=hb,la,"ba @"
bb=hb,lb,"bb @"
bx=hb,la,"bx @"
xa=ha,la,"xa @"
xb=ha,lb,"xb @"

u="   ------------"
uu="   ============"

p1=bb,ab,ba,ab,bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,ab,ab,u,
ba,aa,ba,aa,ba,aa,ab,u,
ab,u,ab,ab,aa,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,ab,aa,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,ab,u,
ba,bb,u,ba,bb,u,
ab,bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,ab,ab,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,ab,ab,ab,u,ab,u,
aa,aa,ba,aa,aa,aa,bb,u,
ab,ab,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,ab,bb,aa,bb,ab,ba,u,
bb,aa,bb,u,bb,ab,ba,u,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,u,bb,ab,bb,u,ba,ab,ba,
uu

p2=bb,ab,ba,ab,bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,ab,ab,u,
ba,aa,aa,aa,ba,aa,ab,u,
ab,u,ab,ab,aa,bb,ab,ba,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,ab,aa,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,ab,u,
ba,bb,u,ba,bb,u,
ab,bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,ab,bb,aa,ba,ab,ba,u,
bb,ab,ba,ab,ab,ab,u,ab,u,
aa,aa,ba,aa,ba,aa,bb,u,
ab,ab,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,ab,bb,aa,bb,ab,ba,u,
bb,aa,bb,u,ba,ab,ba,u,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,u,bb,ax,bb,u,ba,ab,ba,
uu

p3=bb,ab,ba,ab,bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,ab,ab,u,
ba,aa,aa,aa,ba,aa,ab,u,
ab,u,ab,ab,aa,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,aa,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,ab,u,
ba,bb,u,ba,bb,u,
ab,bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,ab,xb,aa,ba,ab,ba,u,
bb,ab,ba,ab,ab,ab,u,ab,u,
aa,aa,ba,aa,ba,aa,bb,u,
ab,ab,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,ab,bb,aa,bb,ab,ba,u,
bb,aa,bb,u,ba,ab,ba,u,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,u,bb,aa,bb,u,ba,ab,ba,
uu

p4=bb,ab,ba,ab,bb,aa,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,ab,ab,u,
ba,aa,ba,aa,ba,aa,ab,u,
ab,u,ab,ab,aa,bb,ab,ba,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,xb,aa,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,ab,u,
ba,bb,u,ba,bb,u,
ab,bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,ab,bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,ab,ab,ab,u,ab,u,
aa,aa,ba,aa,aa,aa,bb,u,
ab,ab,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,aa,bb,ab,ba,u,
bb,aa,bb,u,bx,ab,ba,u,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,u,bb,aa,bb,u,ba,ab,ba,
uu

p5=bb,ab,ba,ab,bb,aa,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,ab,ab,u,
ba,aa,ba,aa,ba,aa,ab,u,
ab,u,ab,ab,aa,bb,ab,ba,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,aa,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,ab,u,
ba,bb,u,ba,bb,u,
ab,bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,ab,ab,aa,ba,ab,ba,u,
bb,ab,ba,ab,ab,ab,u,ab,u,
aa,aa,ba,aa,aa,aa,bb,u,
ab,ab,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,aa,bb,ab,ba,u,
bb,aa,bb,u,bb,ab,ba,u,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,u,bb,ab,bb,u,ba,ab,ba,
uu

p6=bb,ab,ba,ab,bb,aa,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,ab,ab,u,
ba,aa,aa,aa,ba,aa,ab,u,
ab,u,ab,ab,aa,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,ab,aa,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,ab,u,
ba,bb,u,ba,bb,u,
ab,bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,ab,ab,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,ab,ab,ab,u,ab,u,
aa,aa,ba,aa,ba,aa,bb,u,
ab,ab,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,aa,bb,ab,ba,u,
bb,aa,bb,u,bb,ab,ba,u,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,u,bb,aa,bb,u,ba,ab,ba,
uu

p7=bb,ab,ba,ab,bb,aa,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,ab,ab,u,
ba,aa,aa,aa,ba,aa,ab,u,
ab,u,ab,ab,aa,bb,ab,ba,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,ab,aa,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,ab,u,
ba,bb,u,ba,bb,u,
ab,bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,ab,bb,aa,ba,ab,bx,u,
bb,ab,ba,ab,ab,ab,u,ab,u,
aa,aa,ba,aa,xa,aa,bb,u,
ab,ab,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,aa,bb,ab,ba,u,
bb,aa,bb,u,ba,ab,ba,u,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,u,bb,ab,bb,u,ba,ab,ba,
uu

p8=bb,ab,ba,ab,bb,aa,bx,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,ab,ab,u,
ba,aa,ba,aa,ba,aa,ab,u,
ab,u,ab,ab,aa,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,aa,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,ab,u,
ba,bb,u,ba,bb,u,
ab,bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,ab,bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,ab,ab,ab,u,ab,u,
aa,aa,ba,aa,ba,aa,bb,u,
ab,ab,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,ax,ba,ab,bb,aa,bb,ab,ba,u,
bb,aa,bb,u,bb,ab,ba,u,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,u,bb,aa,bb,u,ba,ab,ba,
uu

p9=bb,ab,ba,ab,bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,ab,ab,u,
ba,aa,xa,aa,ba,aa,ab,u,
ab,u,ab,ab,aa,bb,ab,bx,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,aa,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,ab,u,
ba,bb,u,ba,bb,u,
ab,bb,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,ab,ab,aa,ba,ab,ba,u,
bb,ab,ba,ab,ab,ab,u,ab,u,
aa,aa,ba,aa,aa,aa,bb,u,
ab,ab,aa,ba,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,ab,bb,aa,bb,ab,ba,u,
bb,aa,bb,u,ba,ab,ba,u,bb,ab,bb,u,
bb,ab,ba,u,bb,ab,bb,u,ba,ab,ba,
uu

prove p1,p2,p3,p4,p5,p6,p7,p8,p9

Alexander Holroyd said  on 26/04/2011 20:03:
> Here is today's brain teaser.
>
> Consider the three 12-bell place notations
> x 125T 18ET
>
> The group generated by these pns (i.e. the set of all rows you can get
> to from rounds using only these pns) contains 95040 rows. It is a very
> interesting group from a mathematical perspective, called the Mathieu
> Group M_12. (It is the second smallest of the 26 "sporadic groups"). One
> interesting property is that it is "sharply 5-transitive", which means
> that any given 5 bells (e.g. 12345) ring exactly once of each of the
> possible places that 5 bells can occupy (counting different orders of
> 12345 as different), giving 12x11x10x9x8 = 95040 rows.
>
> According to the "Lovasz conjecture", it should be possible to ring a
> true round block of these 95040 rows using only these three pns. Can
> anyone come up with an elegant way of doing this? It would obviously be
> nice to do it right-place, ie without 3 consecutive blows. I don't know
> whether that's possible.
>
> Ander
>




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