[r-t] Falseness Groups
alan.reading at googlemail.com
Wed May 16 21:58:21 UTC 2012
Having now (out of interest) had a look to see why the composition is false
to Just Visiting I see that it is actually due to the extra incidence of B
falseness (caused by the x16x sections before and after the half-lead) and
so is actually quite similar to the Pudsey / Dorchester example.
The composition is false in the first part to Just Visiting.
Between the 2nd and 3rd wrongs you ring part of the 26354 course including
the lead when the tenor is 6ths place bell.
Later on in the first part you enter the 23645 course at a W. B falseness
says that 24365 is false with 23456 (somewhere in the courses) and so of
course 26354 is false with 23645 but it depends on the method as to in
which leads the falseness occurs. In Quixhill you escape the incidence but
in Just Visiting it runs false in the lead of 23645 straight after the W
because 24365 in the Wrong is false with 23456 in the Middle and
On 16 May 2012 20:51, Alan Reading <alan.reading at googlemail.com> wrote:
> I'm certain someone else will provide more detail, but falseness groups
>> don't usually cover tenors parted (or out of course?) so presumably the
>> problem leads come between the pairs of singles.
> Well they do really it's just they have more courses associated to
> them. E.g. B means 32456 is false with the plain course aswell as 24365.
> When people say a method is CPS then they usually mean not covering tenors
> parted or singles.
> The problem may well be between the singles (I haven't checked) but it
> could also be elsewhere like in my Pudsey / Dorchester example.
> On 16 May 2012 20:44, Matthew Frye <matthew at frye.org.uk> wrote:
>> On 16 May 2012, at 20:32, Sam Austin wrote:
>> > Just Visiting Surprise Major and Quixhill Surprise Major are both group
>> l with BD/ac falseness.
>> > At the risk of appearing to be stupid, why does not this composition of
>> Quixhill ture to Just Visiting? I had always thought that a composition
>> true to one method would be true to another with the same falseness group.
>> > Aye
>> > Sam
>> > 5088 Quixhill Surprise Major
>> > by Richard I Allton (No 808) 23456 M 3/5 B W H
>> > (52364) 1 ss 3
>> > 36245 ss 1
>> > 43652 1 ss
>> > (56234) 1 1
>> > 62345 ss 1 1
>> > 52643 2
>> > 53246 - 1 1
>> > 23645 1
>> > 3 part.
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