[r-t] ringing-theory Digest, Vol 96, Issue 1
Rob Weatherby
bobthefatman at hotmail.com
Mon Sep 3 13:05:41 UTC 2012
Thanks Guys,
Hayden, the way you described it clicked for me and I now understand that format of the notation. I worked it out.
Fingers crossed and i hopefully call it on the weekend.
Rob.
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> 1. Minor (Rob Weatherby)
> 2. Re: Minor (Basil Potts)
> 3. Re: Minor (Hayden Charles)
> 4. Re: Minor (Don Morrison)
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> Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 21:35:12 +1000
> From: Rob Weatherby <bobthefatman at hotmail.com>
> To: <ringing-theory at bellringers.net>
> Subject: [r-t] Minor
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> Hi Guys,
> Could someone please explain this in beginners terms for me. I just don't understand the format.Can you help me out by explaining this in relation to the lead ends as pbs etc....
>
> 1,259 Plain Bob MinorDonald F Morrison (no. 2298)2345 W H
> 3245 3* 3
> 4235 3* -
> 3425 6 -
> 4523 In
> 3254 6 4ths
> Round at the treble's handstroke
> lead two leads after the final bob.
> 3* = s - -
> 6 = s - - s - -
> AND
> 1,259 Plain Bob MinorDonald F Morrison (no. 2299)2345 W 4ths I H
> 4235 -
> 3245 3* -
> 3425 - s
> 5342 s3rds
> 4325 2 -
> 2435 3 -
> 3425 3* -
> 5243 -
> 4235 2 4
> 3254 1 -
>
> round at the treble's next handstroke lead
> 3* = s - -
> 4 = s - - s
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> Cheers Rob.
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> Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 22:23:08 +1000
> From: Basil Potts <basilpotts at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [r-t] Minor
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> Hi Rob,
>
> It's hard to know how much explanation you need. But. In the first
> touch, most of the calls are at Home (when the tenor is dodging 56 down) or
> Wrong (when the tenor is dodging 56 up). The tenor does have to run in once
> and make the bob once. The figures (I guess you would call them part ends)
> are the course ends produced by the calls. These are mostly longer than a
> plain course. For example, the first part is called WWWHHH and will be five
> courses in length = 300 changes. 3* is explained as meaning S - - (i.e.
> Single Bob Bob), 3 (without an asterisk is usually taken to mean Bob Bob
> Bob).
>
> Please let me know if you need further clarification.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Basil Potts
>
> PS I assume that each touch includes all 720 changes on 6 bells, plus
> another 539 repeated changes. One of these may be rounds(!)
>
> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Rob Weatherby <bobthefatman at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> > Could someone please explain this in beginners terms for me. I just don't
> > understand the format.Can you help me out by explaining this in relation to
> > the lead ends as pbs etc....
> >
> > 1,259 Plain Bob MinorDonald F Morrison (no. 2298)2345 W H
> > 3245 3* 3
> > 4235 3* -
> > 3425 6 -
> > 4523 In
> > 3254 6 4ths
> > Round at the treble's handstroke
> > lead two leads after the final bob.
> > 3* = s - -
> > 6 = s - - s - -
> > AND
> > 1,259 Plain Bob MinorDonald F Morrison (no. 2299)2345 W 4ths I H
> > 4235 -
> > 3245 3* -
> > 3425 - s
> > 5342 s3rds
> > 4325 2 -
> > 2435 3 -
> > 3425 3* -
> > 5243 -
> > 4235 2 4
> > 3254 1 -
> >
> > round at the treble's next handstroke lead
> > 3* = s - -
> > 4 = s - - s
> >
> > Cheers Rob.
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> Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2012 13:47:32 +0100
> From: Hayden Charles <hcharles at grandsire.co.uk>
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> Subject: Re: [r-t] Minor
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> Rob Weatherby wrote on 02/09/2012 12:35:
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> > Could someone please explain this in beginners terms for me. I just don't understand the format.
>
> > Can you help me out by explaining this in relation to the lead ends as pbs etc....
>
> Have a look at (for example):
>
> <http://www.heatons.fsnet.co.uk/Ringing/Conducting/Session5/Theory.htm>
>
> This explains a lot of the notation.
>
> - is a bob, s a single.
>
> The headings refer to the positions of the 6, so W is the first lead end
> where the 6 dodges 5-6 up, H is the fifth lead end where it dodges 6-5 down.
>
> 4ths means that the 6 makes the bob, In that it runs in, Out that it
> runs out. S3rds - make 3rds at a single.
>
> The numbers under the W and H column mean the number of calls in the
> same position, and the 3* points to the note underneath (s - -) meaning
> the call is a single in the first course and a bob in the next two.
> Similarly the 6 gives the pattern of calls at the same position, s - - s
> - - (each of these will be one course apart).
>
> In the first touch the lead sequence starts:
>
> s p p p p
> b p p p p
> b p p p b
> p p p p b
> p p p p b at which point you should have the lead end 132456
>
> That should give enough to get started. Try writing out the individual
> lead ends to check that you get the figures given.
>
> Hayden Charles
>
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> Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 15:57:05 -0400
> From: Don Morrison <dfm at ringing.org>
> To: "ringing-theory at bellringers.net" <ringing-theory at bellringers.net>
> Subject: Re: [r-t] Minor
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> On Sunday, September 2, 2012 <x-apple-data-detectors://0>, Basil Potts
> >
> > wrote:
> > @gmail.com>
> > > I assume that each touch includes all 720 changes on 6 bells, plus
> > > another 539 repeated changes.
> >
>
> Correct.
>
> >One of these may be rounds(!)
> >
>
> No, not in the sense i suspect you mean. Rounds occurs only at the
> beginning and end of the touch. While you can't (with normal calls) get a
> sub-extent length, true touch of symmetric, plain minor round at hand, the
> whole reason you can get a "true" quarter of it round at hand is that it
> gives you the opportunity to omit rounds in the interior of the calling.
>
>
> --
> Don Morrison <dfm at ringing.org>
> "After all these years I have observed that beauty, like happiness,
> is frequent. A day does not pass when we are not, for an instant,
> in paradise."
> -- Jorge Luis Borges, _Los Conjurados_, tr Willis Barnstone
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