[r-t] A Ringing Puzzle

Robert Bennett rbennett at woosh.co.nz
Thu Jun 5 11:13:23 UTC 2014



	Non-method blocks appear to be the campanalogical equivalent of dark
matter in the universe, or black ops in TV programmes. 

	"if any of your team are caught or killed ringing this non-method,
the peal secretary will deny all knowledge..." 

	If we have to have restrictions on ringing, then they should be based
on producing interesting ringing that is pleasant to listen to, and
which fits in with 400 years of tradition, not on legalistic rules.


	I don't see the point of requiring more working bells than hunts for
example. Why? 

	Or why try to ban peals of Bob Triples (because of the 4 blows
behind), when it had been part of  ringing history, and it
should have the same changes in it as any other peal of Triples?  

	There are some innovations , like variable cover, that are probably
not worth ringing, but that should be a matter of taste and good
judgement, not some committee ruling. 

	There are some perfectly legal peals, such as ringing the same PB
Minimus course 210 times, which must be a little tedious to listen to,
to say the least. 

	Maybe, ringing non-methods is turning the clock back to a time where
the truth of the "peal" as a whole mattered more than the method,
where the calls were placed etc. 

	A lot of peals of grandsire triples are based on 3-lead bob courses,
and they have absolutely nothing to do with the plain course.  

	A lot of peals have for years had what might be termed a non method
block in them, where there is a fearful muddle, and the conductor
succeeds in getting everyone back in order after 2 or 3 minutes. 

  
----- Original Message -----
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Subject:Re: [r-t] A Ringing Puzzle

On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 1:25 AM, Don Morrison  wrote:
> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Graham John  wrote:
>> ...
>> So, the answer is that method B is a Surprise method, but method A
can't
>> exist as people would learn and ring it.
>
> Thus an even more straightforward example of a non-non-method than
Dixon's.

No, I'm sorry, on further reflection I now believe that both Graham
and I were mistaken about this. Method A can easily be a bona fide,
CCCBR approved non-method: you just have to ring it in a peal of
spliced. For example, it is easy to put together a thoroughly
unattractive, true peal consisting of mostly Method B, with one lead
of Method A stiched in.

Which I suppose makes sense in some way, as the original impetus for
non-method blocks was their use in spliced.

-- 
Don Morrison 
"It is much easier to strive for perfection when you are never bored."
-- Daniel Kahneman, _Thinking, Fast and Slow_

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