[r-t] Original Minor and Plain Bob Triples

Robert Bennett rbennett at woosh.co.nz
Mon Mar 10 10:52:39 UTC 2014

	A couple of random thoughts:  

	Single Court Minor could be rung as Original Minor, and the calling
converted to Plain Bob Triples. The PB composition would then be of
the W&M in every course variety. This thinking may well have occurred
to John Holt, as there is a peal composition of his like that. 

	On a slightly different topic, compositions of Surprise Major with
calls not affecting 7-8 can sometimes be adapted to Triples, because
the false course end for Bob Triples and St Simons Triples etc 243657
is similar to the FCE 24365 for many surprise major: e.g. Middleton's
could be used for St Simon's Triples. Obviously the length would be

----- Original Message -----
 From:ringing-theory at bellringers.net
Sent:Fri, 07 Mar 2014 12:03:09 +0000
Subject:[r-t] 720s

Hi All,

I remembered that PABS' remark is not the entire story. It is possible
to move from an extent on n to an extent on n+1.

If an extent of Original Minor, say, has its rows reversed, this can
be construed as the treble leads of Plain Bob Triples (with a suitable
renumbering). I was first introduced to this result by Roger N Scholes
in Feb. 1981 following an extent of Original with bobs only. This can
be re-constructed as a peal of PB7 with bobs-only, such as those
composed by Henry Hubbard amongst others.

This topic is one which comes up every so often. 'R' asked a question
in the Comic about this in late '92 and it cropped up again more
recently on this list in the guise of 'such bobs-only peals being
impossible' -- by someone I thought should have known better, but
there we are.

It seems to be a generational thing -- the next generation has to
learn from the past by asking questions -- because nothing is written
down in an *available* form.

Best wishes


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