[r-t] A date to pencil into your calendar
johnstonrh at amen.org.uk
Mon Sep 7 11:11:24 UTC 2015
> > I doubt we are going to come to a common mind on this question.
> > . Your arguments therefore seem to me conditioned by the desire to
> all methods fit into a *half-pull* scheme (whether that really makes
> in terms of what was rung or not).
> I do agree that the proposal document as currently written is describing
> half-pull scheme. In some ways it could be considered an unintended
> consequence of allowing the identity change that whole-pull ringing can
> into the definition of a standard performance of a half-pull scheme when
> number of rows rung is at least the number of rows in two extents.
> I also agree that it's perfectly possible to ring the same method in a
> number of different ways. The current scheme could be extended to
> incorporate method ringing in whole-pulls, in 3 or more pulls, or indeed
> an undefined number of pulls where the same row is rung continuously
> the conductor says something like, "next", to indicate to the band to
> on to the next row that a method generates. It's hard to argue this
> method ringing because it's based on methods(!) For such a scheme,
> decisions would need to be made on whether the standard performance
> are based on the number of rows or the number of changes, and in the
> undefined number of pulls case above, truth would presumably need to be
> based on how many times a given row is 'visited', rather than how many
> it's rung. Use of the identity change in multi-pull ringing could be
> especially problematic..
Ok thanks. I think this exchange has shown up the difficulties of
incorporating multi-row ringing.
> But I can't help thinking that this isn't the right time to introduce
> multi-pull ringing into the proposal document.
Yes I agree with this and your comments that followed. It is much
more important to get the new half-pull scheme agreed and accepted by
the CC, and getting into this realm is likely to meet significant
resistance, however described.
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