[r-t] Long lengths of minor
b.j.waller at hotmail.co.uk
Fri Dec 23 14:37:25 UTC 2016
Philip: "Have you found a true extent for this with exotic calls?"
Interestingly no extent (or even false 720) is given in any of the sources I consulted - the only touch given is a 360, given using a sixths place bob at the end of each course, twice repeated (false).
"I'd also be a bit surprised that the band would ring 15 extents of which 14
were treble dodging and one treble-place. Here's to hoping some other
conventional treble-dodging method was locally known as "Evening Delight"."
I have had a look in Benjamin Thackrah's "The Art of Change Ringing" published in 1852 - as he hailed from Dewsbury I imagined that his book might shed some light on some of the methods in the Wath 15,120. A few of them are in there, such as Primrose (as was), Tulip, Violet etc.
Also, one of the methods, called 'Horbury Delight', which is listed in same Bell News article in the 10,080 rung at Horbury on 18th February 1817, is in there, and this is interesting for two reasons:
- It is another Treble Place method (&x3x1x1x45x1x3, 12, now just called Horbury), with the same treble path as Evening Delight. All of the other methods in this Horbury long length are Treble Dodging methods.
- And there is this note in the text underneath Horbury Delight:
"A peal in this method appeared in the old Campanalogia, called Evening Delight; for want of singles being made when the treble was laying her sixth's places behind, every change in three four and five six proved false, as the changes in those places were out of course."
So I think that the inclusion of 'Horbury Delight' in the Horbury 10,080 lends credence to the potential inclusion of the Evening Delight Treble Place method being rung with other Treble Dodging methods in the Wath 15,120. It also seems that Evening Delight Treble Place was known in the area, but realised to be false at some point before 1852.
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