[r-t] Vote on non-divisible leads

Tim Barnes tjbarnes23 at gmail.com
Wed Jul 23 22:49:08 UTC 2014


Here are the 5 options to vote on for the non-divisible question.  Now that
I know some people consider Plain Hunt to be synonymous with Original, my
example in Option B makes less sense.  I had always thought of Plain Hunt
as being Plain Bob with a 1n lead end.

Matthew Frye has kindly agreed to run the poll later tomorrow, so there are
a few remaining hours for any final comments.


*Voting options for the non-divisible lead question (select one only):*

*Option A:* Methods with place notations that are multiples or fractions of
other methods can each be separately named.

Example: The method with place notation 56.1T.56.1T.56.1T.56.1T.56.1T has
already been named as Magenta Little Place Maximus.  It's a little plain
hunter with 5 hunt bells, a 10-row lead and a 7-lead course.  A band now
rings and wants to name the method with place notation 56.1T.  This is a
differential principle with a 2-row lead, a 5 / 7 structure, and so a
35-lead course.  It has the same plain course as Magenta.  The band wants
to name this Cyan Differential Maximus, and it is permitted to do so under
Option A.  This option allows the same plain course to be given multiple
names and have multiple classifications.


*Option B:* A method can't be named as a new method if its place notation
is a multiple or a fraction of a previously named method.

Example: Assume methods with one-lead courses are now allowed (a subject
for a future vote - I'm ignoring that they can now be rung as blocks).
 Someone wants to name the method with place notation -16-16-16-16-16-16, a
method with a one-lead course, and he/she wants to name it Plain Hunt
Minor.  (Classification tbd for one-lead course methods.)  This wouldn't be
permitted under Option B because the place notation is a multiple of the
method with place notation -16, which is a principle with a 6-lead course
that has already been named as Original.  If Original hadn't already been
named, Plain Hunt Minor could have been validly named.  This option ensures
that any given plain course is uniquely named.  However, the classification
can't be derived automatically from the plain course - one has to know
where the lead ends have been drawn.


*Option C:* When a new method is rung, the Methods Committee decides what
should be the appropriate multiple or fraction of the place notation that
defines a lead of the method.

Example: A band rings the method with place notation -34-16-12-16-34-16, a
differential little alliance minor method with a two-lead course, and they
want to name it Evening Sun Differential Little Alliance Minor.  The
Methods Committee looks at this and determines that this method is better
recorded in the CC Method Collections with place notation
-34-16-12-16-34-16-34-16-12-16-34-16, a method with a one-lead course,
because this gives the treble a familiar treble bob hunting path (this is
Morning Star with a 6ths place lead end).  The Methods Committee uses this
power to ensure that any given plain course is uniquely named.  However,
the classification can't be derived automatically from the plain course -
one has to know where the lead ends have been drawn.


*Option D:* None of the above.  Methods may not have divisible place
notations.

Example: Under Option D, in the examples above, Magenta Little Place is
renamed in the CC Methods Collection as Magenta Differential with a two-row
lead.  Plain Hunt is not a valid method (even if one-lead course methods
are allowed) because it divides down to Original.  6ths place Morning Star
is not allowed (again, even if one-lead course methods are allowed) because
it divides down to Evening Sun Differential Little Alliance Minor.  This
option ensures not only that any given plain course is uniquely named, but
that it can also be uniquely classified from the plain course.


*Option E:* Methods are defined by the shortest non-repeating sequence of
changes. Differentials where Hunter classes (other than Hybrid) can apply
if the Plain Course is considered in its entirety shall be classified as
Hunters and entitled accordingly. If more than one classification could be
applied, the order of precedence applied to methods with multiple hunts
shall be used.

This option ensures not only that any given plain course is uniquely named,
but that it can also be uniquely classified from the plain course.



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