# [Bell Historians] Tenor Weights

Chris Pickford c.j.pickford at t...
Thu Sep 12 13:15:09 BST 2002

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On re-reading my notes I see I forgot to note that the 4th is 5.2.10 !!!!
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Michael Lee's book on Peterborough gives as the notice and the archive,=
except 4 as 5-2-10 and tenor as 21-0-0. As this was probably taken from th=
e same notice, I can only assume student (proper spelling this time!) error=
in having noted it as 21-2-0, but it does show the treble weights were "gi=
ven out" as 4-2-27 and 5-0-17.

But can GAD shed light on what's right for the 4th? 5-2-10 or 5-2-20?

I see RW 3976 gives the weights of 3 and 4 at Peterborough as 4-0-17 an=
d 4-2-18.=20

The articles in RW 3938 and 3976 (17 Oct.1986 p.913 and 10 July 1987 p.=
617 for those who prefer full references) are both in the "Foundry Focus" s=
eries. The first only gives the tenor weight - as 21-2-20 in E flat. The l=
atter gives all the weights, the twelve as 4-1-1, 4-0-17, 4-0-17, 4-2-18, 5=
-1-12, 5-2-12, 6-3-8, 7-3-10, 9-1-18, 10-2-6, 14-1-12 and 21-1-20 in E flat=
. Sharp second 4-0-11, and old tenor 27-0-9 in C (was 29-3-9 before tuning)

Comparison seems to indicate that the bells were weighed - but not retu=
ned - in 1986. Hence minor variations - though minor is debatable for 1-2/1=
0!

CP
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From: George Dawson=20
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Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] Tenor Weights

My notes (from an Archive) give all the weights as below EXCEPT:
Treble 4.0.27
2nd 4.2.17
Tenor 21.0.0
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Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 10:26 AM
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From: Chris Pickford [mailto:c.j.pickford at t...]=20
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I used to ring regularly at St.John the Divine when I was a studen=
, and the weights displayed in the tower were 4-2-27, 5-0-17, 5-1-12, 5-2-2=
0, 6-3-11, 7-3-8, 9-1-23, 10-2-16, 14-1-21 and 21-2-0 (not 21-0-0 - interes=
tingly). I always assumed it was an exact weight, since the pucker weights =
were given for all the others. The weights had been shown on a framed noti=
ce for quite a long time, so there was no secrecy here.=20

Didn't Taylor's have a policy of only releasing the weight of the t=
enor of complete rings until the 1960s/70s?

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