[Bell Historians] Tenor Weights

Nick Bowden nickwbowden at f...
Fri Sep 13 19:41:07 BST 2002

MessageAs the originator of this thread (which has been most interesting) we
still do not appear to have a definitive answer for Peterborough Cathedral
tenor. The ONLY references I've seen to it weighing 21-2-20 are Dove 9 and
RW 3938. Dove 7 & 8 both have 21-1-20 as do all other references I have
seen. I believe the latter to be the correct weight on the basis that
21-2-20 was a typo in the "Foundry Focus" (a not uncommon feature of an
otherwise excellent, informative and much missed series) and it would fit in
with CP's 21-2-0 at St.John the Divine were he not now doubting the accuracy
of his student notes.

P.S. I'm surprised DLC or DrL haven't mentioned the "growing tenor" at Ash
next Sandwich, 21-1-18 to 21-3-0.

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Pickford
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Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] Tenor Weights

Michael Lee's book on Peterborough gives as the notice and the archive,
except 4 as 5-2-10 and tenor as 21-0-0. As this was probably taken from the
same notice, I can only assume student (proper spelling this time!) error in
having noted it as 21-2-0, but it does show the treble weights were "given
out" as 4-2-27 and 5-0-17.

But can GAD shed light on what's right for the 4th? 5-2-10 or 5-2-20?

I see RW 3976 gives the weights of 3 and 4 at Peterborough as 4-0-17 and

The articles in RW 3938 and 3976 (17 Oct.1986 p.913 and 10 July 1987 p.617
for those who prefer full references) are both in the "Foundry Focus"
series. The first only gives the tenor weight - as 21-2-20 in E flat. The
latter gives all the weights, the twelve as 4-1-1, 4-0-17, 4-0-17, 4-2-18,
5-1-12, 5-2-12, 6-3-8, 7-3-10, 9-1-18, 10-2-6, 14-1-12 and 21-1-20 in E
flat. Sharp second 4-0-11, and old tenor 27-0-9 in C (was 29-3-9 before

Comparison seems to indicate that the bells were weighed - but not retuned -
in 1986. Hence minor variations - though minor is debatable for 1-2/10!


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