[Bell Historians] Re: Bishop Latimer, Birmingham

[Simon Adams]

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MessageThe Revd R.F Bashford (also posted as "the leader" on the Parish not=
ice board) was incumbent of Homerton at some time. Were these bells remove=
d during his time there?

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Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 10:59 PM
Subject: [Bell Historians] Re: Bishop Latimer, Birmingham


First of all, to Richard's letter:

Mr Smyth, whose name appears on the recast tenor, was very proud of the n=
ew bells and was most disappointed at the outcome. CJP thinks I am unfair i=
n suggesting that the place was destined to be "useful as a peal factory" (=
my words) and in fairness to the SMG, I think that the number of volunteers=
to learn was equally disappointing.

He was succeded in 1971 by the Revd A. J. F. Voake, and it was he, not Mr=
Smyth, who didn't like (the) bells - and they were gone within the year!

The present Rector is the Revd R. F. Bashford, who has been there since 1=
981.

The story about GF with the rope being mistaken for the Executioner is qu=
ite possibly true. The bells were dedicated in 1959 and in the time they we=
re there, only one execution took place at nearby Winson Green Prison (in A=
ugust 1962). Two years later hanging was abolished.

Coming now to Neil's query, I don't know about the Deritend peal boards. =
If they aren't at Perry Barr, the chances are that they did not go to Latim=
er's (they are not there now). Remember that Deritend was demolished in 194=
4, and little care was taken of so many things at the time.

Going up that mighty tower at Latimer's is depressing. The tower is on th=
e south side, at the junction of nave and chancel. A short staircase leads =
up to the high ringing room, into which the back of the organ intrudes. The=
re are large and lofty gothic windows. A long draught - there was formerly =
a home-made rope-guide, also an Ellacombe chiming apparatus. The place is b=
are and bleak now, with only the rope-holes to remind one that there were e=
ver bells there. An iron ladder up the wall brings you into the belfry. The=
two sets of foundation joists remain, amongst which is hung a tiny 19thC b=
rassfoundry-type bell, wholly unworthy of the church. There is a secondhand=
3-cwt bell on the ground floor of the tower, by Barwell, but it was never =
hung. Another long ladder takes you to the roof. NB - the place in infested=
with pigeons.

Strangely, another church whose bells ring elsewhere has a total immersio=
n font - St Mary's, Lambeth where I rang several times, the bells fittings =
and frame being transferred to Caterham Valley about the same time as Perry=
Barr received the bells of Bishop Latimer's.

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From: Richard Grimmett=20
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Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 7:11 PM
Subject: RE: **SPAM** Re: [Bell Historians] Bishop Latimer, Birmingham


Vicar never liked them. Same old chap is still there I think. Also so=
me excuse about an unexploded bomb near the tower!!

George was accused of being a hangman after a peal there, when he went =
into the lcoal with an old bellrope over his shoulder



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