[Bell Historians] Gloucester

[David Cawley]

Hi Ingrid

The briefest of replies, as I am just off on a birthday jaunt. I feel badly about not having been in touch and I am concerned obviously about Jill's progress. Give her much love [yes, and prayers, whether or not she wants them :) !] At least it sounds as if the hip is doing well. I had a friend a year ago who had exactly the same problem, and I'm glad to say all is well, without further surgery now.

More over or after the weekend, meanwhiole MUCH love to you both

David 


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ingrid Nyeboe 
  To: bellhistorians 
  Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 3:05 AM
  Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] Gloucester



  Hi David,
  I have been trying to email you but since I haven't heard from you in a while, I am using this unique method to reach you.
  Jill had hip replacement surgery on March 13, was in hospital for 3 nights--thank God, it's an awful, unkind, brutal place--and has been slowly regaining strength. Hip is fine but her left foot--very arthritic--is causing major problems now.
  Anyway trust you are well and that the recent high holiday was pleasant and enjoyable.

  Much love,
  Ingrid 

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: David Cawley
    Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 4:34 PM
    To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] Gloucester


    If the original was

    MISSI DE CELIS HABEO NOMEN NOMEN GABRIELIS

    Then the translation would be 

    I HAVE THE NAME OF GABRIEL SENT FROM HEAVEN

    Which is also correct 'ecclesiastical' Latin, even if not pure classical. My guess is that the composer of the rhyming hexameter put the 'is' [which is 2nd declension ablative plural in any gender]  to ryme with the genitive Gabrielis, which is a 3rd declension name. The classic form [allowing for the fact that they had no Gabiels around at the time] would be

    DE CELO MISSUS NOMEN GABRIEL HABEO

    Much less fun! 

    LUDO*

    *An Easter egg prize awaits the one who can swork that out. No list member won last year's!




      > Cathedral press officer, the Reverend Geoff Crago, said: "It is a very
      > long time since I did Latin at school.

      > "I can manage Nomen Gabrielis - the name of Gabriel - but I'm not sure
      > about Celis. Even an online Latin dictionary on the web couldn't help
      > me with that word."



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