[Bell Historians] Pimlico

Fri Dec 28 10:07:01 GMT 2007

Fascinating and thanks David.

One point though, are you sure that St Mary's church was on the site of the
present vicarage of St Stephen's?  The present vicarage, which is about 2
years old, replaced a 1970's vicarage, which replaced a Victorian vicarage
which was the vicarage of St Mary's. St Mary's church hall, still there and
now called St Stephen's church hall, being part of the complex. St Stephen's
vicarage was on the site now occupied by the college next to St Stephen's
church.

Alan

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Christ Church Victoria Street. Badly damaged WW2 and demolished in 1954.
Site now the garden in front of St James' Park Underground; the Church Bible
used to be preserved in the Post Office part of the complex.

There was a bell by John Clifton of Whitechapel, 1639. It hung in the former
Broadway Chapel which was succeded by Christ Church, on the same site, in
1843, the tower being completed in 1904.

A new bell, 34" diameter, Gillett & Johnston 1934, weight 7-2-21, note B,
was hung in the tower to replace the J Clifton bell, which was placed on the
church floor. A fine notice was put above it, which was lettered by a former
parishioner of mine in Dover; I inherited her cash books giving details of
the notice.

After the bombing, the Clifton bell went to the floor of St Peter, Eaton
Square, and was subsequently stolen, so I am told.

Christ Church also played host to a Church Arts Exhibition in 1930, and a
chime of eight, tenor 26 1/4", 3-3-6 in Eb, hung in a steel frame and chimed
by a clavier, was installed in the church (presumably at ground level) by
Mears & Stainbank. It was returned to the foundry after the Exhibition and
subsequently sold off (where?)

St Mary, Vincent Square (1841) was demolished in 1925, and the site is now
occupied by the Vicarage of St Stephen, Rochester Row.     

DLC

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As always, your information is fascinating David.

I think the bell at St Peter Eaton Square wasn't damaged in the fire. The
bell is certainly used.

Do you have any information on St Mary Vincent Square? Long since
demolished? And Christ Church Victoria Street?

Alan

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Quite possibly the G&J bell which Alan quotes is that at St Mary, Bourne
Street, which was founded as a daughter church of St Barnabas. It was
formerly known as Graham Street and is sometimes quoted as Westminster
rather than Pimlico.  

I've always quoted the Pimlico towers as 

S Barnabas (10) See Lovesguide

S Gabriel, Warwick Square (8) ditto  

S Saviour, St Geotrge's Square (8+2) ditto

S Michael, Chester Square (3, hung dead) Mears 1846, 2nd recast by JT 1933

S Mary, Bourne Street (see above)

S James the Less, Thorndike Street (Garden Street) (1, Warner,  reputedly in
a frame for more: any reliable data, anyone?)

S Peter, Eaton Square (There was a 15-cwt G&J bell, was it replaced after
the fire?)

All Saints, Ennisbmore Gardens (1)

All Saints, Grosvenor Road (dem, the M&S bell now the 5th at Aldenham)

Holy Trinity, Bessborough Gardens (bombed, dem, was 1, JT, in a frame for 6)

S John, Wilton Road (bombed, dem, were 8, Warner, 9-3-17)

S Philip, Buckingham Palace Road (1) ? dem

I believe S Paul, Wilton Place, Knightsbridge, a great heavy u/r 3, see
Lovesguide, is sometimes claimed as Pimlico, and no doubt there are others.

Hope you all had a great Christmas - best wishes to all on the list for a
happy new year.

DLC

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From: Alan <mailto:aaj.buswell at _SOsZX7g0w5ANN5Audc6qAQQPg6AeHd4nOXnPhlxR4O7ST-ngJh8S74cNANSJr1U-tsNZTrtlvn7F8jMli8lqA.yahoo.invalid>  Buswell 

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>From G&J bell records Volume 10 p102:

Pimlico [no exact place given] No. 4828; 1 bell; 20" dia; 1-2-20 in A 870hz.
October 26, 1933.

The above may be of interest.

AAJB

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Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 11:07 PM

Subject: [Bell Historians] St. Barnabas Pimlico

On a recent visit to London I took the opportunity to walk to Pimlico. 
The church has obviously had a vast amount of money spent on it and is 
now shining white with cleaned and replaced stone. The slate louvres 
also look brand new. Unfortunately the exterior gate was locked and I 
was unable to gain access to the interior or the vicarage. The school 
was open but I deemed it to be intrusive to try to gain access to the 
church by trying to attract attention there. I am told that the church 
interior is amongst the most ornate in London.
I remember Alan Taylor indicating that there might be some bell 
activity there once the restoration of the church was completed. If 
this is the case, has any bell related work been considered?
Judging by the proximity of the neighbouring commercial and domestic 
buildings a very efficient sound control system would be mandatory.
The exterior of the adjacent church buildings has not benefitted from 
any contemporary restoration.

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