[Bell Historians] Pimlico

David Cawley dave at B5O8zIOhCUBkmD4NXvVnE0yFY2QHSSOia3zIqgOZt4vWtYcltyY0bzi4IuUE_SECURx2K41SzJsaWSHCG_U4PF4.yahoo.invalid
Fri Dec 28 00:47:31 GMT 2007

Christ Church Victoria Street. Badly damaged WW2 and demolished in 1954. Site now the garden in front of St James' Park Underground; the Church Bible used to be preserved in the Post Office part of the complex.

There was a bell by John Clifton of Whitechapel, 1639. It hung in the former Broadway Chapel which was succeded by Christ Church, on the same site, in 1843, the tower being completed in 1904.

A new bell, 34" diameter, Gillett & Johnston 1934, weight 7-2-21, note B, was hung in the tower to replace the J Clifton bell, which was placed on the church floor. A fine notice was put above it, which was lettered by a former parishioner of mine in Dover; I inherited her cash books giving details of the notice.
After the bombing, the Clifton bell went to the floor of St Peter, Eaton Square, and was subsequently stolen, so I am told.

Christ Church also played host to a Church Arts Exhibition in 1930, and a chime of eight, tenor 26 1/4", 3-3-6 in Eb, hung in a steel frame and chimed by a clavier, was installed in the church (presumably at ground level) by Mears & Stainbank. It was returned to the foundry after the Exhibition and subsequently sold off (where?)

St Mary, Vincent Square (1841) was demolished in 1925, and the site is now occupied by the Vicarage of St Stephen, Rochester Row.     


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: alantaylor at TPF-wHU2fWO4Vm9mJmywtRwTSSh7i6q0apU025GOWVz6iqREGDZX1WVlHlcPMDMnuQHv5fda0n993XR1g5WfXNev.yahoo.invalid 
  To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:57 PM
  Subject: RE: [Bell Historians] Pimlico

  As always, your information is fascinating David.

  I think the bell at St Peter Eaton Square wasn't damaged in the fire. The bell is certainly used.

  Do you have any information on St Mary Vincent Square? Long since demolished? And Christ Church Victoria Street?



  From: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com [mailto:bellhistorians at hAjUiAMyZtVVj5LKuvmC3sD1fwrKG8S6H4gjs5i_O69uC1UJGqCr6VR2xp96qM39ZbDe58FZWX8KWjbHLEahrYuV0w.yahoo.invalidom] On Behalf Of David Cawley
  Sent: 27 December 2007 18:46
  To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] Pimlico

  Quite possibly the G&J bell which Alan quotes is that at St Mary, Bourne Street, which was founded as a daughter church of St Barnabas. It was formerly known as Graham Street and is sometimes quoted as Westminster rather than Pimlico.  

  I've always quoted the Pimlico towers as 

  S Barnabas (10) See Lovesguide

  S Gabriel, Warwick Square (8) ditto  

  S Saviour, St Geotrge's Square (8+2) ditto

  S Michael, Chester Square (3, hung dead) Mears 1846, 2nd recast by JT 1933

  S Mary, Bourne Street (see above)

  S James the Less, Thorndike Street (Garden Street) (1, Warner,  reputedly in a frame for more: any reliable data, anyone?)

  S Peter, Eaton Square (There was a 15-cwt G&J bell, was it replaced after the fire?)

  All Saints, Ennisbmore Gardens (1)

  All Saints, Grosvenor Road (dem, the M&S bell now the 5th at Aldenham)

  Holy Trinity, Bessborough Gardens (bombed, dem, was 1, JT, in a frame for 6)

  S John, Wilton Road (bombed, dem, were 8, Warner, 9-3-17)

  S Philip, Buckingham Palace Road (1) ? dem

  I believe S Paul, Wilton Place, Knightsbridge, a great heavy u/r 3, see Lovesguide, is sometimes claimed as Pimlico, and no doubt there are others.

  Hope you all had a great Christmas - best wishes to all on the list for a happy new year.


    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Alan Buswell 

    To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com 

    Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:19 AM

    Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] St. Barnabas Pimlico

    From G&J bell records Volume 10 p102:

    Pimlico [no exact place given] No. 4828; 1 bell; 20" dia; 1-2-20 in A 870hz. October 26, 1933.

    The above may be of interest.


      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: jimhedgcock 

      To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com 

      Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 11:07 PM

      Subject: [Bell Historians] St. Barnabas Pimlico

      On a recent visit to London I took the opportunity to walk to Pimlico. 
      The church has obviously had a vast amount of money spent on it and is 
      now shining white with cleaned and replaced stone. The slate louvres 
      also look brand new. Unfortunately the exterior gate was locked and I 
      was unable to gain access to the interior or the vicarage. The school 
      was open but I deemed it to be intrusive to try to gain access to the 
      church by trying to attract attention there. I am told that the church 
      interior is amongst the most ornate in London.
      I remember Alan Taylor indicating that there might be some bell 
      activity there once the restoration of the church was completed. If 
      this is the case, has any bell related work been considered?
      Judging by the proximity of the neighbouring commercial and domestic 
      buildings a very efficient sound control system would be mandatory.
      The exterior of the adjacent church buildings has not benefitted from 
      any contemporary restoration.

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