[Bell Historians] CCCBR and English Heritage

Chris Pickford c.j.pickford.t21 at 05HKA11lPHuuue5ELeqNvgbvlec8rCMMHN9q1nbPP9asUype-CTM0WnMSRUq6L0FNPX7NtDStB30UyBxJIhfdxR8-LrxCug.yahoo.invalid
Thu Oct 8 21:58:56 BST 2009


The Walsgrave frame is no longer there - apparently it became a "den" in which youths smoked illegal substances, and the police requested it's removal. It wouldn't have lasted long there anyway

It deserved better. It was quite an worthwhile frame - totally unsuitable for re-use, but interesting enough to merit preservation ex situ (subject to practicalities). It is illustrated in Bellframes and also in my RW article on Walsgrave (RW 1985 p.1078)

CP


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John H Allen 
  To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:45 PM
  Subject: RE: [Bell Historians] CCCBR and English Heritage


    
  I wonder what SPAB would say about the old frame in the churchyard at Walsgrave Coventry?



  John






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  --- In bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com, "Mark Regan" <markregan at ...> wrote:
  >... I wouldn't rely on the CCCBR for anything to do to support the Church's
  planning process, the CBC, EH or anyone else.

  Another player in the game is SPAB (Society for Protection of Ancient
  Buildings); a most useful organisation if you have an old house, but
  unfortunately they also pronounce on old bell frames, the latest being
  Horton, Gloucs.

  I have had correspondence with their secretary, Matthew Slocombe, and it
  seems to me that there is a very large gap between conservationists, who
  want to preserve things and think ringers are a bunch of noisy barbarians,
  and ringers, who want something that is safely full-circle ringable,
  preferably enjoyably.

  Another matter concerns the retention of old bell frames. WRT Horton SPAB
  was not happy about the idea to display the old frame in a nearby barn,
  security and context being the main issues. They seem immovable on the
  matter, despite the fact that a display in a barn is much more accessible,
  particularly for the disabled, safer, and easier to see and appreciate.
  Properly displayed, with perhaps a model bell and good labelling, people
  could actually learn something about bells and bell-hanging. 

  Anne

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