[Bell Historians] Moseley St Mary - Steel Bells

Peter Rivet peter at JsgmHejQ5KLAMg2S08F0YXRSqPvGqmvALRRWRx9MEqND-YEh5Be8zqb_SM-qyHljf7puF1856AFUDAYGLoM.yahoo.invalid
Sun Jan 8 19:13:39 GMT 2012

Point taken...  but since when has Sheffield had a shipyard????  Naylor
Vickers had a steelworks.

So far as listing is concerned, so long as St Mary's remains in use as a
church it's covered by ecclesiastical exemption.  So what happens to the
bells is up to the Birmingham Anglican Diocese, not Birmingham City Council.


  -----Original Message-----
  From: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Kevin Jones
  Sent: 08 January 2012 18:31
  To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [Bell Historians] Moseley St Mary - Steel Bells

  This is what i Said,

  If Moseley Bells are Scrapped we will loose a piece of industrial
  I know the bells sound like buckets, but that is there appeal & charm to
hear how bad they are.
  It is like watching a terrible TV programme, you may hate the film but you
still watch it.

  If These bells are Scrapped & not saved by for example The Black Country
  We will loose the Historic Eight Steel Bells cast at the Shipyard of
Naylor Vickers & Co.

  The only other are the set of eight steel bells at Lancaster U.S.A. hung
dead except the tenor,
  They are rung by a chimestand keyboard, Cast by Naylor Vickers & Co in
  with a Flat 7th cast by Lester & Pack in 1768, The Tenor is Hung for

  Is there a preservation order on the bells?
  like in a listed building?


  To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com
  From: nickwbowden at 8OBQcu4f3P8DOT7YnVR2DwwIRr7pGQgpfiUH6BrNBagWjg1_0NmLNhy1rcPU4Hnyv4WH7sWskjMecO-7zew.yahoo.invalid
  Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 17:40:58 +0000
  Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] Moseley St Mary - Steel Bells

  I think what Kevin meant to say was that Lancaster will be the only octave
capable of being sounded as things stand, depending what happens to Moseley.

  From: George Dawson
  Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 5:22 PM
  To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Bell Historians] Moseley St Mary - Steel Bells

  Lancaster are not hung for ringing.


  From: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dickon Love
  Sent: 08 January 2012 11:28
  To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] Moseley St Mary - Steel Bells

  Kevin Jones:

      This is a shame because these are the only remaining 8 steel bells in
the world hung for ringing that were
      cast by Vickers except for the eight steel bells at Lancaster, The
Evangelical Lutheran Church of the Holy Trinity
      in Pennsylvania, U.S.A. that are Chimestand Chimed.


    Not so. Naylor, Vickers & Co / Vickers, Sons & Co cast rings of eight

    Sheffield, S Marie (transferred to Moseley, replaced by Mears 8 1874)

    Randwick, Sydney, Australia (replaced by Taylor 8 2000)

    Hurst, Lancs (Scrapped c1960)

    Hastings S Clement (Replaced by Taylor 8 1965)

    Blackpool, Sacred Heart (Replaced by Mears 8)

    Edinburgh, S Giles (Chime, scrapped)

  So actually Kevin is right, this is the last remaining steel eight?


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