[Bell Historians] Indexing foundry marks

['Chris Pickford' c.j.pickford.t21@btinternet.com [bellhistorians]]

Only just picked this up (am away on holiday)

 

Agree that a single, consistently numbered, scheme would be worthwhile, and also that the Alex Bayliss groupings might be okay at high level – but a little wary about what goes in it. Bayliss, I think, placed too much reliance on drawings of inconsistent reliability. To be reliable, any new scheme needs to use accurate (and scaled) images of actual marks – rather than drawings. It’s surprising how marks that are said to be “identical” prove to be anything but the same when one looks in detail!

 

I’ve struggled with how to do this, and haven’t really come up with an approach that I regard as satisfactory. But I’d certainly be happy to take part in a brainstorming session on this or participate in a think tank. It needs a fairly radical approach though – going back to basics rather than expecting to be able to work with what’s already available (or traditionally accepted)

 

Chris Pickford

4 Walmsley Court

High Street

Kinver

Staffs

DY7 6HG

Tel: 01384-878435 or 07811-453525

E-mail:  <mailto:pickford5040 at gmail.com> pickford5040 at gmail.com 

 

From: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com [mailto:bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: 24 November 2015 10:03
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Now theres a task!

Alex Bayliss produced a catalogue of marks on pre-reformation bells in the UK, copying from all the published texts. She grouped them in sets:

Crosses

Stops

Shields

Crowns

Miniscules

Fleur de lys

Medallion s

Capitals

Whether this was the right approach I am not sure as it separated groups of stamps from the same founder.

 

G

 

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Sent: 24 November 2015 09:36
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Subject: [Bell Historians] Indexing foundry marks

 

  

Has anyone done some work on developing an index system for foundry 
stamps and other marks on bells? I am currently developing something to 
support a new database driven version of my Lovesguide series, and 
thought it a good idea to check whether anyone has already done this. 
(No point in reinventing the wheel.) When I say "index system", I mean 
some form of succinct code that would also describe the mark as well as 
index it, just as Chris Pickford did with bellframes.

The obvious outcome of this would be a catalogue...

DrL



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