[Bell Historians] Fw: [GCNA-Members] images
Timothy Hurd timothyhurd@ymail.com [bellhistorians]
bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com
Tue Jun 5 05:06:09 BST 2018
Upon a further bit of digging:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/services/engine/search/sru?operation=searchRetrieve&version=1.2&query=%28gallica%20all%20%22Agence%20rol%2094581%22%29&lang=en&suggest=0
The 'Agence Rol' French press service glass negative #94581 was taken in 1924. Therefore, one possibility is the co-incidence of the Empire Imperial Jamboree held at Wembley from 01-08 August 1924 with the British Empire Exhibition which ran from late April until October 1924. There was apparently fairly sparse overseas Boy Scout attendance at this Wembley jamboree, but it paved the way for a much larger gathering in Ermelunden, Denmark [2nd International Jamboree] immediately thereafter, from 09-17 August.
Still trying to find a catalogue/list of exhibitors to see if JT & Co. had an 8-bell chime on display at the BIE 1925.
TH
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On Tue, 5/6/18, Timothy Hurd timothyhurd at ymail.com [bellhistorians] <bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] Fw: [GCNA-Members] images
To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, 5 June, 2018, 1:24 PM
Just some thoughts...
With a 400% zoom-in & a bit of
'fill-in-the-blanks' thinking, a few of the bells in
the photo appear to have the trademark John Taylor raised
relief (circular wreath) 'Lamb & Flag' lozenge
cast mid-waist. Profiles appear to be 1920s Taylors as well.
Also, the rounded, double-bevel finial design on the
keyboard corner posts is definitely 1920s Taylor [cf:
Loughborough Carillon], as are the 'canister'
turnbuckle adjusters with their top-mounted locking
knobs.
The 'lemon-squeezer' hat visible at the L side of
photo might indicate a Boy Scout [Lord Baden-Powell]
connection to some sort of jamboree or training session.
Likely candidates could be the International Jamborees held
at Olympia/London in 1920 or at Merseyside/Birkenhead in
1929. As the two chaps seated by the keyboard have identical
socks/footwear, but not the same shirts, this could simply
be a case of scouts from different 'troops'. A
cursory check of photos of French scout uniforms of the era
confirms knee socks with downward 'M' cuff ribbons
and waist-length shirts [rather than mid-thigh jackets, as
in UK].
The two steel railings in the foreground might also indicate
installation adjacent to a railway siding, although I cannot
discern any tracks in the photo, per se.
My guess is that the photo might be from a [temporary?]
Taylor installation of a simple diatonic 8-bell chime,
either at some [private] boys' school in the UK or large
assembly grounds such as Olympia or Merseyside.
The photo is credited to 'Agence Rol', a French
press agency. If taken in the UK by the Agence Rol, the
chime player & his on-looker companion may well have
been French attendees at a Jamboree, with Rol keen to
document the international participation. Hence, also, the
reference to 'carillon' and how the photo wound up
in the BNF.
It would be worth contacting Loughborough to get a list of
their 1920s chime contracts & see if the
instrument's provenance can be established.
Regards,
Timothy Hurd QSM
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On Mon, 4/6/18, Carl S Zimmerman csz_stl at swbell.net
[bellhistorians] <bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: [Bell Historians] Fw: [GCNA-Members] images [2
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To: "Bell Historians"
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Received: Monday, 4 June, 2018, 2:59 PM
[Attachment(s) from Carl S Zimmerman
included below]
My guess
on the photo is English bells (obviously an octave) at a
Boy
Scout jamboree.Any
ideas? Carl
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From: famille vitu
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To:
gcna-members at lists.uchicago.edu
Sent: Sunday, June 3,
2018 9:23 PM
Subject: [GCNA-Members]
images
Dear
colleagues,
I attach
two images
for you which I have recently found on the
web:
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drawing of 8 ringers ringing Notre Dame de Paris's
bourdon
bell
-
photo from the BNF (French National Library), entitled
"carillon"; looks like it
was taken at a school (UK ?) - if anyone can give their
advice on where
this was taken, who founded the bells, and other
interesting
tidbits, I would
appreciate it.
Greetings
to all,
and excellent congress to all the
attendees,
Elizabeth
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