[Bell Historians] Fw: [GCNA-Members] images

Timothy Hurd timothyhurd@ymail.com [bellhistorians] bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com
Tue Jun 5 05:06:09 BST 2018


Upon a further bit of digging:

http://gallica.bnf.fr/services/engine/search/sru?operation=searchRetrieve&version=1.2&query=%28gallica%20all%20%22Agence%20rol%2094581%22%29&lang=en&suggest=0


The 'Agence Rol' French press service glass negative #94581 was taken in 1924. Therefore, one possibility is the co-incidence of the Empire Imperial Jamboree held at Wembley from 01-08 August 1924 with the British Empire Exhibition which ran from late April until October 1924. There was apparently fairly sparse overseas Boy Scout attendance at this Wembley jamboree, but it paved the way for a much larger gathering in Ermelunden, Denmark [2nd International Jamboree] immediately thereafter, from 09-17 August.

Still trying to find a catalogue/list of exhibitors to see if JT & Co. had an 8-bell chime on display at the BIE 1925.

TH

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On Tue, 5/6/18, Timothy Hurd timothyhurd at ymail.com [bellhistorians] <bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] Fw: [GCNA-Members] images
 To: bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com
 Received: Tuesday, 5 June, 2018, 1:24 PM
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       Just some thoughts...
 
 
 
 With a 400% zoom-in & a bit of
 'fill-in-the-blanks' thinking, a few of the bells in
 the photo appear to have the trademark John Taylor raised
 relief (circular wreath) 'Lamb & Flag' lozenge
 cast mid-waist. Profiles appear to be 1920s Taylors as well.
 Also, the rounded, double-bevel finial design on the
 keyboard corner posts is definitely 1920s Taylor [cf:
 Loughborough Carillon], as are the 'canister'
 turnbuckle adjusters with their top-mounted locking
 knobs.
 
 
 
 The 'lemon-squeezer' hat visible at the L side of
 photo might indicate a Boy Scout [Lord Baden-Powell]
 connection to some sort of jamboree or training session.
 Likely candidates could be the International Jamborees held
 at Olympia/London in 1920 or at Merseyside/Birkenhead in
 1929. As the two chaps seated by the keyboard have identical
 socks/footwear, but not the same shirts, this could simply
 be a case of scouts from different 'troops'. A
 cursory check of photos of French scout uniforms of the era
 confirms knee socks with downward 'M' cuff ribbons
 and waist-length shirts [rather than mid-thigh jackets, as
 in UK]. 
 
 
 
 The two steel railings in the foreground might also indicate
 installation adjacent to a railway siding, although I cannot
 discern any tracks in the photo, per se.
 
 
 
 My guess is that the photo might be from a [temporary?]
 Taylor installation of a simple diatonic 8-bell chime,
 either at some [private] boys' school in the UK or large
 assembly grounds such as Olympia or Merseyside.
 
 
 
 The photo is credited to 'Agence Rol', a French
 press agency. If taken in the UK by the Agence Rol, the
 chime player & his on-looker companion may well have
 been French attendees at a Jamboree, with Rol keen to
 document the international participation. Hence, also, the
 reference to 'carillon' and how the photo wound up
 in the BNF.
 
 
 
 It would be worth contacting Loughborough to get a list of
 their 1920s chime contracts & see if the
 instrument's provenance can be established.
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Timothy Hurd QSM
 
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 On Mon, 4/6/18, Carl S Zimmerman csz_stl at swbell.net
 [bellhistorians] <bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: [Bell Historians] Fw: [GCNA-Members] images [2
 Attachments]
 
  To: "Bell Historians"
 <bellhistorians at yahoogroups.com>
 
  Received: Monday, 4 June, 2018, 2:59 PM
 
  
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
    
 
  
 
  
 
      
 
        
 
                
 
          [Attachment(s) from Carl S Zimmerman
 
  included below]
 
          
 
        
 
        My guess
 
  on the photo is English bells (obviously an octave) at a
 Boy
 
  Scout jamboree.Any
 
  ideas? Carl 
 
  
 
  
 
        
 
  ----- Forwarded
 
  Message -----
 
   From: famille vitu
 
  <jpvitu at wanadoo.fr>
 
   To:
 
  gcna-members at lists.uchicago.edu 
 
   Sent: Sunday, June 3,
 
  2018 9:23 PM
 
   Subject: [GCNA-Members]
 
  images
 
     
 
  
 
  
 
   
 
   
 
  
 
  Dear 
 
  colleagues,
 
   
 
  I attach
 
  two images 
 
  for you which I have recently found on the
 
  web:
 
   
 
  -    
 
  drawing of 8 ringers ringing Notre Dame de Paris's
 
  bourdon 
 
  bell
 
   
 
  -    
 
  photo from the BNF (French National Library), entitled
 
  "carillon"; looks like it 
 
  was taken at a school (UK ?) - if anyone can give their
 
  advice on where 
 
  this was taken, who founded the bells, and other
 interesting
 
  tidbits, I would 
 
  appreciate it.
 
   
 
  Greetings
 
  to all, 
 
  and excellent congress to all the
 
  attendees,
 
  Elizabeth
 
  
 
  
 
   
 
   
 
  
 
     
 
  
 
  
 
      
 
       
 
  
 
      
 
      
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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