[Bell Historians] The ongoing evolution of Dove online

[Ken Webb]

On 07/07/2020 08:43, Chris Pickford via Bell-historians wrote:
>
> Further to my email yesterday about the AHS turret clock database, I 
> contacted Andy Burdon (the database manager) who says that anyone can 
> request access for research purposes.
>
> If you want to access the database, then email admin at ahstcg.org 
> <mailto:admin at ahstcg.org> to request a login stating if you require 
> access for research (i.e. viewing) or to add details (ability to add 
> or edit).
>
> Importantly, Andy added “I would really like to get bells people more 
> interested in entering info about turret clocks into the database 
> rather than duplicate information across both databases”. I would 
> certainly echo that
>
>
I recognise the 1,000's of hours of volunteer effort by the existing 
Dove team. Thank you to those people (who have always provided excellent 
'service' compared to many commercial organisations) & the current team.

I would not expect to ask an existing or future Dove volunteer for 
details re say 10 or 100 churches - I would like direct access to the 
log of historical records / changes to the database content to see what 
changed & the source.

Chris states that clock detail should reside in the AHS database - I agree.

I expect 90% of those interested in bells are not interested in clocks 
but some are (I assume we don't know how many?)

Could there be a link from the Dove entry to the AHS database record for 
that building? So if I looked at Hilmarton church on Dove I could click 
a link direct to the AHS record to read the record re the clock etc in 
that church? Also from AHS to Dove?

I'm not clear re:

What is the scope of the new Dove listing bells in churches? Any bell of 
any size whether mounted on a frame in a belfry or not?

Are tune playing drums etc  listed by AHS? If not, is there a record 
elsewhere? (Dove is not the 'home'.)

Ellacombes?

Is the intention that AHS database lists all clock hammers etc. & 
nothing on Dove? So a bell frame having clock hammers bolted to it would 
not list those hammers in the Dove records? (Makes sense to me.)

What happens where bells can be sounded by automated hammers using more 
modern electrical/electronic control?  Are those hammers & mechanisms 
listed anywhere? I can't see a need for Dove to list the details of how 
they are sounded, does AHS list them?

A church tower with 1or more bell used only for a clock - list in Dove? 
Which buildings?

A ring of 2 bells (Foxham) - list in Dove?

Where precise nominals are known a Bill Hibbert type summary (similar to 
those used by Dickon) of how well they conform to a mode of tuning? Can 
this be automated?

Regards,

Ken



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