[Bell Historians] The ongoing evolution of Dove online

[Ken Webb]

On 07/07/2020 12:53, Chris Pickford via Bell-historians wrote:
>
> First, nothing has been discussed or agreed – indeed, until now, I 
> doubt either “side” was aware of the existence of the other
>
> The sort of linkage Ken suggests would certainly be possible – but 
> that’s a policy and practical decision for the developers and 
> controllers of the two sites down the line
>
> Yes, carillon machines / drum chimes ARE included in the AHS database
>
> The AHS database does have facilities for indicating clock hammers, I 
> think (I haven’t checked – but the field structure is pretty 
> comprehensive).
>
> I’d observe that clock people seem to be as reluctant to collect 
> details about bells as bell people are to record information on 
> clocks. I think people with these separate interests tend to feel out 
> of their comfort zones (or just overburdened). Not long ago I asked a 
> couple of “clockies” (as they call themselves) if they could take some 
> basic details of bells when visiting off-radar clocks, e.g. in public 
> buildings, country house stable clocks etc. They had been doing a lot 
> of exploring in such places. I was only suggesting some very basic 
> details – but they /really/ didn’t want to do it. Knowing nothing 
> about bells was clearly one reason – but I think that just having too 
> many other things they were recording was a big factor too.
>
>
I fully accept the need to provide the replacement Dove solution - my 
previous queries are for the longer term scope of what is & is not held 
by Dove & how it can easily provide extra detail (including clocks etc.) 
without calling on any volunteer effort per query.

I take all the responses from Chris to be a potential  positive means of 
having 2 freestanding databases maintained by experts in their field 
with the potential for links per location to aid access to the other 
detail.

I imagine most bell professionals could not take useful detail re clocks!

I looked at the AHS website - they state they have listed  6,000 clocks 
(so Dove would not want to compete):

Membership of the Turret Clock Group is only open to members of the AHS, 
and you can indicate to the AHS when*joining* 
<https://www.ahsoc.org/join/>that you would also like to join this group.

The Turret Clock Group holds the premier database of turret clocks, 
recording all UK-made turret clocks whether located in the UK or abroad. 
The database was started in 1999 and currently holds records on over 
6000 clocks. We are constantly adding records and seeking information on 
clocks that exist or used to exist in buildings, museums, or private 
collections. Access to the database is granted with a user name and 
password by application to our*database manager* 
<mailto:admin at ahstcg.org>, stating if the access is for research into 
clocks or to enter information on new or existing clocks.


Ken

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