[Bell Historians] St John's Waberthwaite bells

[John Arthur]

Why not try and contact the DAC Office as they might hold copies of these
reports?

John

On Mon, 8 Feb 2021 at 00:36, Richard Offen <richard.offen at iinet.net.au>
wrote:

> According to the National Bell Register for the Carlisle Diocese (
> http://georgedawson.homestead.com/nbr.html), the bells have been dated at
> around 1450. This is the register entry:
>
>
>
> *Diocese*
>
> *No*
>
> *Parish*
>
> *Dedication*
>
> *Bell*
>
> *Canons*
>
> *Diameter*
>
> *Date*
>
> *Founder*
>
> *Visited*
>
> Carlisle
>
> 07/300
>
> Waberthwaite
>
> St John
>
> 1 of 2
>
> 6
>
> 16
>
> c1450
>
> Unknown
>
> RMC 6/94
>
> Carlisle
>
> 07/300
>
> Waberthwaite
>
> St John
>
> 2 of 2
>
> 6
>
> 17.5
>
> c1450
>
> Unknown
>
> RMC 6/94
>
> Carlisle
>
> 07/300
>
> Waberthwaite
>
> St John
>
> Disused
>
> 14.75
>
> 1882
>
> John Warner & Sons
>
> RMC 6/94
>
>
>
> The initials in the ‘visited’ column stand for Ranald W.M. Clouston, a
> prolific and much respected bell archaeologist. Sadly Ranald died in 2002
> and, as far as I know, his papers are currently in storage, however, it is
> more than likely he furnished the parish with a copy of his findings, which
> a search through your church archives might reveal. Ranald was very good at
> comparative bell archaeology and his notes may well give some clues to the
> answers you are searching for.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> [image: cid:image001.png at 01D40F8F.50BED290]
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>
>
> *From:* Bell-historians [mailto:
> bell-historians-bounces at lists.ringingworld.co.uk] *On Behalf Of *cmwinzor
> via Bell-historians
> *Sent:* Monday, 8 February 2021 1:14 AM
> *To:* bell-historians at lists.ringingworld.co.uk
> *Cc:* cmwinzor
> *Subject:* [Bell Historians] St John's Waberthwaite bells
>
>
>
> Can this be posted please?
>
>
>
> St John's Church, Waberthwaite looking for advice
>
>
>
> We have 2 church bells which are well documented by various historians.
> They are engraved Henricus Sextus Rex and Sanctus Jacobus Dominus Thomas
> Walker.
>
> The story has always been that they are connected to the time when King
> Henry V1 took refuge at Muncaster Castle. Last year there was research done
> into the legend of the Luck of Muncaster which include the story of the
> bell in Muncaster church, also dedicated to Henry V1. This research is not
> yet published but I have seen a copy of it. It gives some weight to the
> visit of the king.
>
>
>
> At that time St Johns was the mother church and Thomas Walker was rector.
>
> We are researching into our church history and would love to know if there
> is any connection in date/style/possible origin of our bells and the one in
> St Michael's. Just to know that they were likely to be connected in date
> would be a start. As far as I know the two King Henry bells have never been
> compared. Is there anyone who can steer me in the direction of an expert??
>
> Our bells are hung in the bellcote and the Muncaster one is in their
> church. Once we're all able to travel. it's a wonderful area for a visit.
>
> Fingers crossed someone out there can help
> Catherine Winzor
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