[Bell Historians] St John's Waberthwaite bells

[Richard Offen]

According to the National Bell Register for the Carlisle Diocese (http://georgedawson.homestead.com/nbr.html), the bells have been dated at around 1450. This is the register entry:

 


Diocese

No

Parish

Dedication

Bell

Canons

Diameter

Date

Founder

Visited


Carlisle

07/300

Waberthwaite

St John

1 of 2

6

16

c1450

Unknown

RMC 6/94


Carlisle

07/300

Waberthwaite

St John

2 of 2

6

17.5

c1450

Unknown

RMC 6/94


Carlisle

07/300

Waberthwaite

St John

Disused

	14.75

1882

John Warner & Sons

RMC 6/94

 

The initials in the ‘visited’ column stand for Ranald W.M. Clouston, a prolific and much respected bell archaeologist. Sadly Ranald died in 2002 and, as far as I know, his papers are currently in storage, however, it is more than likely he furnished the parish with a copy of his findings, which a search through your church archives might reveal. Ranald was very good at comparative bell archaeology and his notes may well give some clues to the answers you are searching for.

 

Richard

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Can this be posted please?

 

St John's Church, Waberthwaite looking for advice

 

We have 2 church bells which are well documented by various historians. They are engraved Henricus Sextus Rex and Sanctus Jacobus Dominus Thomas Walker.

The story has always been that they are connected to the time when King Henry V1 took refuge at Muncaster Castle. Last year there was research done into the legend of the Luck of Muncaster which include the story of the bell in Muncaster church, also dedicated to Henry V1. This research is not yet published but I have seen a copy of it. It gives some weight to the visit of the king.

 

At that time St Johns was the mother church and Thomas Walker was rector.

We are researching into our church history and would love to know if there is any connection in date/style/possible origin of our bells and the one in St Michael's. Just to know that they were likely to be connected in date would be a start. As far as I know the two King Henry bells have never been compared. Is there anyone who can steer me in the direction of an expert??

Our bells are hung in the bellcote and the Muncaster one is in their church. Once we're all able to travel. it's a wonderful area for a visit.

Fingers crossed someone out there can help
Catherine Winzor

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