[Bell Historians] Hastings stays

[Ken Webb]

I agree that a correctly set up Hastings is the best solution. (In the 
Letter from Arthur Fidler he explains how he did it on his own & that it 
would take three people in 2004.)

Regarding the timber end stops bolted to the slide bar used with a 
Hastings stay   - were these intended to be adjusted / replaced? They 
seem to be the solution if a bell is too deep set etc? I replaced one 
which was decayed through woodworm - unbolted very easily.

(Examples are on pages 96 & 97 of Bell Fittings by Trevor Jennings which 
also states they reduced the slide patterns differences to 8  (1930's?) 
& then 2 from 1950.)

Ken

On 24/02/2022 14:13, Chris Povey wrote:
> /It was followed by a letter from Arthur Fidler, RW 16 Jan 2004 p.53/ 
> - and  an earlier letter from me in RW 2004, p 29 questioning one 
> aspect of the article: that Hastings stays are tapered on three sides. 
> This conflicts with Taylors' drawings for Hastings stays, which shows 
> all four sides are tapered, to ensure everything remains central. I 
> never received an answer to this question. It is possible this bit was 
> confused with shaping the part of the stay that fits in the headstock, 
> which of course can be tapered on three sides to aid removal and 
> setting the stay central to the slide. The part facing the small holes 
> in Taylors headstocks should, of course, never be tapered, otherwise 
> the stay will not be upright (and Taylor stays are stamped with this 
> warning).
> Chris Povey
>
> On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 1:52 PM c.j.pickford--- via Bell-historians 
> <bell-historians at lists.ringingworld.co.uk> wrote:
>
>     NOT hyphenated – he’s in Crockford’s under Horne, Edward Hastings
>
>     Thanks for drawing attention to the 2003 article (I had a note of
>     it – but not in the place I looked in). It was followed by a
>     letter from Arthur Fidler, RW 16 Jan 2004 p.53
>
>     I agree completely with Chris Povey about Hastings stays –
>     faultless and friction-free if properly set up. It used to annoy
>     me that at one point E&S advertised specifically that they
>     converted Hastings to normal stays and sliders – a definite
>     failure to appreciate good engineering. That said, I do
>     acknowledge that many steeplekeepers find them a real pain.
>
>     Replacement stays of the correct dimensions are still easily
>     obtained from the original suppliers in Loughborough, I believe! A
>     little expensive, but easy to fit – so probably worth it.
>
>     */Chris Pickford/*
>
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