[r-t] Calling Positions

Philip Earis Earisp at rsc.org
Mon Oct 16 09:17:17 UTC 2006

I read this with the some bemusement. Probably the same kind of
bemusement that I would have if the expert responsible for the country's
fiscal policy announced that after a long think he was proposing the way
to boost the economy was by going back to pounds, shillings and pence.

I can see no justification for your suggestion.  I think it would cause
confusion, with conferring any benefit. A calling position such as 7ths
or 9ths is unambiguous; your system is not.  With bright ideas such as
these it's only a matter of time before you'll be on the Central

-----Original Message-----
From: rchat [mailto:rchat at allton.org.uk] 
Sent: 14 October 2006 12:31
To: ringing-theory at bellringers.net
Subject: [r-t] Calling Positions

Generally speaking, the calling positions M W and H signify coursing
rather than specific place bells. We are now seeing more compositions on
higher numbers that regularly use other positions, commonly 7ths in
9ths in Maximus and so on to turn the 7th in. We are also seeing more
examples turning the 8th in as well.

Would it be sensible to have headings that reflect the coursing order
similar to MWH rather than defining each time in the rubric. I would
like to
suggest 'S' for calls affecting 3, 5 and 7 (as the Seven is involved)
'E' for calls affecting 4, 6 and 8 (as Eight is involved.

This would make the standard headings for higher numbers (for b group as

2345678  S  M  W  E  H

The only difficult I see with this is do we use V or S in Major?

What do people think? Any other ideas?

Richard Allton

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