[r-t] Bobs only 5,039 Grandsire Triples

[Glenn Taylor]

Thanks, Simon. I didn't think that I was imagining them...even down to
recalling the essence of the footnote! I particularly like the "...at all
times welcomes historic reproductions..." which has the makings of a
challenge ripe for testing... :-)

Glenn


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From: ringing-theory [mailto:ringing-theory-bounces at bellringers.net] On
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Sent: 01 August 2013 09:55
To: ringing-theory at bellringers.net
Subject: Re: [r-t] Bobs only 5,039 Grandsire Triples

Yes, found them.
There were 2 handbell peals of 5025 Grandsire Triples conducted by Clement
Glenn in 1908 at 10 Wellgate Rotherham, composed by Henry Johnson (as an
example of a 5000 without an apparent single).

The first was on 23/09/08 and has the following note:
"According to the decisions of the Central Council a peal of Triples must
now consist of the extent. The YACR, however, at all times welcomes historic
reproductions from the great masters, and it is trusted that this footnote
will stand as a sufficient apology for the Association's love of freedom. "

The second was on 18/12/08, with this footnote:
"This is Henry Johnson's historic 'peal' given in Jasper W Snowdon's
'Grandsire' - a composition of very great interest to all who have
sufficient knowledge to appreciate it; Central Council's Committees not
excepted"

Interestingly both peals had an umpire, as do all the handbell peals from
that era in the YACR reports.

Simon

On 01/08/2013 09:03, Glenn Taylor wrote:
> ---
> Happy to do so - after I've rung a peal starting and ending in rounds 
> (I
> hope) this evening, and been to the pub of course.
> Simon Reading (YACR peal secretary)
> ---
> Thanks, Simon: hope it's not a wild goose chase, but I'm reasonably 
> confident.
>
> Glenn
>
>
>
>
> -----
> -original message-
> Subject: Re: [r-t] Bobs only 5,039 Grandsire Triples
> From: "Glenn Taylor" <gaataylor at blueyonder.co.uk>
> Date: 31/07/2013 15:44
>
>
>> I thought this 5039 had been rung before - am I mistaken?
> Many moons ago  (i.e. 30+ years) I recall coming across one or two 
> similar-ish peal reports in Yorkshire Association annual reports from 
> either the late 19th or early 20th centuries. I don't recall that they 
> were 5039 changes in length but were certainly an odd number less than 
> 5040. The entry in the annual report carried a footnote along the 
> lines of  "Composition of historical importance blah, blah...merit in 
> ringing it blah, blah...the YACR would always support blah, blah...". 
> Perhaps the YACR peal secretary could do a quick search through the 
> association peal index and let us have the details?
>
> Glenn
>
>
>
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