[r-t] Method extension

Rebecca Cox r.j.cox at blueyonder.co.uk
Mon Apr 27 09:44:14 UTC 2015

Aren't most of the problem with method extension caused because we are 
looking at the problem from the wrong perspective. Extension looks at 
the problem from the lowest stage upwards, whereas we should be looking 
at all stages together and asking whether the methods at different 
stages form a family group. To be in a family there simply needs to be 
at least three methods at different stages with an equivalent 
relationship between them. The method at the lowest stage may not show 
all the features of the other members of the family because in a 
decreasing series zero is the next number below 1 and, of course 
methods, may be in more than one family.

Taking this approach, Bristol S Major, Royal and Maximus are clearly in 
one family
but so are Bristol S Major, Littleport Little S Royal and Maximus
Also New Durham Major is in the same family as Durham S Major

Tony Cox

On Thu, April 23, 2015 19:47, Philip Earis wrote:
>>> I'd
>>> particularly like to see examples with these methods:
> Various examples attached with some of the corresponding places at
> different stages marked.
>>> - An oft-rung treble-dodging minor method...lets say London Surprise
>>> Minor
>> There is an extension with PB lead heads to all even stages if you don't
>> require external places to remain external:
>> &36-,2
> That should be
> &36-38.4-,2
> example 1
>> A more interesting example is Cambridge Minor, where possible
>> constructions include
>> Cambridge
>> Lincolnshire
>> Yorkshire 8, Albanian 10, Southwark 12 etc.
>> Pudsey 8, Solihull 10 etc.
> example 2
>>> - A vanilla TD major method...Superlative, say
>> Extends to 12, 16 etc.
> example 3
> Note that under the existing Decision this requires construction ABCD
> mode 3 above the treble, i.e. the 6th's place made when the treble is in
> 4-5 in Maximus corresponds to the 2nd's at the lead head in Major (in
> construction BCDE 10th's would be made). This seems at odds with the
> fact that the method basically consists of Cambridge places everywhere,
> with alternative cross-sections having 1 or 3 made below the treble and
> the equivalent above.
>>> - A simple plain method - something like St Clement's Minor (or indeed St
>>> Simon's doubles)
>> St Clement's
>> Ashbourne College
> example 4
>>> - Inarguably intuitive extensions at any stage, which the current CC
>>> rules nevertheless massively fail with...let's say the method where the
>>> treble simply plain hunts to (n-1)th place, and similarly Ashford.
>> Ok. In these cases a worked example would be more useful as an extension
>> by an odd number of stages is possible and places initially in the same
>> change extend differently. Other cases where extension by an odd number of
>> stages is possible are:
>> Original
>> Duffield Major to Caters:
>> Saturn Doubles to Major: 36-36.18
> example 5
>> 34.14.12 to 3.145.125
> also Shipway Place Doubles to Single Cumberland Place Minor
> example 6
> Note that Reverse Canterbury Place is Minimus is not part of this
> construction as there is no place corresponding to the 5th's at the lead
> head in Doubles.
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