[Bell Historians] Bells with Laver pot and Trefoil shields.

George Dawson George at d...
Tue Sep 17 09:32:48 BST 2002

I assume you have read Sussex Bells & Belfries by George Elphick, page 47?
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Subject: [Bell Historians] Bells with Laver pot and Trefoil shields.

> I am looking in to bells with laver pots and or trefoils on them. I
> have found one bell that has both on it and a cross which is in the
> picture section. I have other bells with laver pots and or trefoils
> on them but but a slightly different cross. The one kindly posted by
> David Bryant. They all seem to have differant types of lettering
> also. I have not yet come across two bells which are identical in
> marks and lettering but not wording. I still have to go and look at
> some.
> I am coming to the assumption that the laver pots and trefoils were
> either guild marks or foundry marks rather than the founder him self.
> One discription in church bells by HB Walters says the laver pots
> could be the mark of the potters the early bell founders and the
> trefoils the arms of William underhill. I have been in touch with the
> Underhill name foundation and they have not come across any recorded
> evidence that the trefoils where used before by the underhills before
> about 1475. The first person that used it was John of Ettington born
> 1459 died 1518
> My ancesters used the trefoils also but I do not yet know when they
> started to use it.Some thing I am still working on.
> Does any one know it there was a reason they used crowned capitals.
> I am going to look at the bell made by my ancester at Kingston church
> Cambridgeshire soon date to be fixed. I am willing to look at any
> thing if any one is after any information on them while I am there.
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