[Bell Historians] Harrison's tuning - Worcester.
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Mon Sep 21 01:52:27 BST 2009
Thank you for your comments Richard;
I appreciate the catastrophic consequences that can result from tuning
experiments gone wrong;-)
Yet out of curiosity I just quickly analysed the tunings at Worcester
from the recordings at:
Using Melodyne DNA editor Beta, which indicates that (near as damn
it), the intervals are in twelve-note equal temperament, except the G:
Here is what I found:
Notes from Melodyne in Worcester min10.wav
pitches shown at end of file + & - in cents.
E4 -3 & -8
A3 -12 & -8
F#3 -13 & -12
D#3 -11 & -10
G2 + 32
Stated on site as:
Bell No. Diameter Weight Note
Treble 2ft - 5ins 6cwts-3qrs-8lbs F sharp
2 2ft - 6ins 7cwts-1qrs-16lbs E
3 2ft - 7ins 7cwts -2qrs-20lbs D sharp
4 2ft - 8 1/2ins 7cwts -3qr -25lbs C sharp
5 2ft - 11ins 8cwts -2qr-19lbs B
6 3ft - 1/2ins 10cwts-0qr-6lbs A sharp
7 3ft - 3 1/2ins 12cwts-0qr-1lb G sharp
8 3ft - 7 1/2ins 14cwts-3qrs-26lbs F sharp
9 4ft - 0ins 20cwts-0qrs-6lbs E
10 4ft - 3ins 25cwts-2qrs-10lbs D sharp
11 4ft - 9ins 34cwts-3qrs-4lbs C sharp
Tenor 5ft - 4ins 48cwts-0qrs-2lbs B
Flat 4th 2ft - 9 1/2ins 8cwts-0qrs-15lbs C
Flat 6th 3ft - 2ins 10cwts-2qrs-24lbs A
Flat 8th 3ft - 9ins 16cwts-1qr-16lbs F
Bourdon 6ft - 4 1/2ins 82cwts-3qrs-24lbs A
I listened to these bells for many hours as a child, watching cricket
across the river, in or by the cathedral.
Worcester was my local city and my mother, a musician, who would often
play and sing in the `"Three Choirs" cathedrals, whilst I watched or
Next time I get the chance I shall make my own field recordings and
see what a more precise analysis can produce using less "experimental"
Don't be concerned, Richard; even if I should buy Taylor's outright,
it is highly unlikely that anyone would even let me get near these
treasures, let alone run tuning experiments on them even if I wanted
On 21 Sep 2009, at 00:04, r_offen1 wrote:
> Frankly, I think we'd all much prefer it if, whoever buys out the
> Taylor business, and please God someone does, simply sticks to the
> Taylor tradition that has given us the glorious sounds of Worcester
> Cathedral, Chewton Mendip, St Chad's Shrewsbury, et al and only
> plays with the company's structure, not its tuning methods.
> > Thank you for your email Bill;
> > I appreciate what you are saying, nevertheless, from past experience
> > with John Harrison's ideas,
> > I am convinced that his writings on bell manufacturing and design
> > merit closer examination.
> > I have yet to be clear about your differences of "pitch and
> > Agreed; chosen tuning systems are subjective and influenced by
> > fashion, although it seems to me that the beat frequencies may hold
> > the "key" to some of the apparent paradoxes.
> > I have been in contact with a number of people who are interested in
> > Taylor's and will be looking at the practicalities over the next few
> > days.
> > I look forward to exchanging ideas with you in the near future.
> > best wishes
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