[Bell Historians] Pune, India
colin at pduck.plus.com
colin at pduck.plus.com
Sun Aug 13 11:24:02 BST 2023
Geoff Dodd’s recollection of the APC story was that it was Lahore, not Pune. This is confirmed here (CannonAP\(PPR\)) (cccbr.org.uk) <https://cccbr.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/cccbr/ppr/CannonAP.pdf> Column 3 paragraph 2.
Colin
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I suspect the soldiers story refers to the tale told by A Patrick Canon? He was in the Indian army during the war. Probably deemed unsuitable to serve in the ordinary British army!
He was based there in Pune for a while and it was customary to have church parade every Sunday.
Pat claimed to have bribed a virger to let him up the tower where he found a bit of rope and attached it to the tenor.
At the end of the service the soldiers lined up on the square outside and awaited the order to march off which was given when the clock struck 12 noon.
Somewhat earlier Pat started pulling up the Tenor. Chaos ensued with orders being given to march off then countered etc.
Pat was court marshalled for this and spent several weeks in the glass house where apparently he had the company of another ringer although I don't remember who.
However it was worth it to Pat to be the only one ever to ring there.
He confirmed that the tower rocked around very alarmingly.
Andrew
On Sat, 12 Aug 2023, 12:23 MATTHEW HIGBY via Bell-historians, <bell-historians at lists.ringingworld.co.uk <mailto:bell-historians at lists.ringingworld.co.uk> > wrote:
I wonder if that picture shows the only time the bells have ever been ‘up’? M:-)
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On 12 Aug 2023, at 12:06, peter at plrivet.plus.com <mailto:peter at plrivet.plus.com> wrote:
I had a look at these bells in 1974 and have no recollection of seeing Ellacombe equipment. They were being clocked (which concerned me a bit, because of the risk of cracking them). It was stated that at one time, before independence, they had been rung by soldiers from the nearby army base but whether this was ringing as we know it seems doubtful.
Peter Rivet
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Subject: Re: [Bell Historians] Pune, India
The three photographs I have of the bells in the frame when in the Loughborough Bell Foundry in 1893 do not show any Ellacombe hammers. The images showing the bells being 'clocked' supports this observation.
Neil Skelton
On 12/08/2023 01:18 Carl S Zimmerman <csz_stl at swbell.net <mailto:csz_stl at swbell.net> > wrote:
A news article about chiming the octave at the Church of the Holy Name has a photo of the bells.
https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/pune/125-year-old-bell-tower-national-anthem-republic-day-independence-day-8887729/
One wonders whether there was ever an Ellacombe stand.
An archived version of a former Website has more photos:
https://web.archive.org/web/20170426083510/http://www.thechurchoftheholyname.com/ <https://web.archive.org/web/20170426083510/http:/www.thechurchoftheholyname.com/>
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